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Old 04-01-2014, 10:09 AM   #3031
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Is it weight or weight bias that is important? Honest question.
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:20 AM   #3032
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This is the main issue with the internet. Everyone has an opinion, and everyone thinks their opinion matters. Even worse, everyone's opinion is displayed equally. There is nothing wrong with having an opinion and stating ideas, but when you state ideas as gospel, and then change your ideas 180' constantly, nobody takes you seriously.

In general more weight is more stable and less nimble (the whole physics nonsense.) Further, more weight over the drive wheels provides better grip for the driven tires. That said, I always try to run a lighter car because it is more nimble and because it usually has less tire wear.
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I do agree that taking off weight on the car is not as important the right tires or driving around the track without crashing.
But guys on these threads love to have the latest and greatest tips and tricks.

But RC Tech is a unique universe where a guy I put multiple laps on can give others and myself set up advice.

Before you take a guys word for gold check there racing resume, you might be getting advice from a guy who would be lap traffic for you.

The closest Track (AKA HB Race Way) to me is horribly bumpy and traction is non existent so getting rid of weight there does not work.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:17 AM   #3034
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Wait a minute, what about your "ultra-light" SC10 4x4?

I thought it was the best 4x4 SCT because it was so light?

It's the best cause it doesn't need a dual plate slipper, chassis brace, adjustable Ackerman, sway bars etc...

This thread isn't any diff than the sc44 thread was.

Oh man.
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This thread isn't any diff than the sc44 thread was.
I wonder what the common denominator is?
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:30 AM   #3036
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I prob shouldn't say that. There was a ton of good info in that thread as well as this one. The biggest thing is to realize that not everything works for everyone in every track condition. Tracks in one region can be very much differnt than tracks in another area. Set ups that work on high grip clay probably won't work on a track that's spitting up roost in the Midwest, or when sprayed with water turns to ice. Be careful who you listen to (do they race in the same conditions as you) and don't choke on the koolaid.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:40 AM   #3037
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Wild Cherry....

You are so full of it. Stop your preaching about team mates and start driving better. You don't even have a B5m , but yet give advice all day. You spill lies and stories and contradictions all the time. I will hit the ignore on you from now on.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:56 AM   #3038
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stock is no different

Traction has always been way more important for speed then a lighter ride.
More weight = more traction??!!!??



1200 lb car. These teams spend $1000s on titanium, magnesium and carbon fiber. You'd think they'd want more traction.
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Most are just switching to shorty packs for a easy 2 oz off total weight.

Of course where you add or remove would have a huge effect with handling as well..

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Hope you come for race...

Depends on when it arrives.
If it comes after we change the layout ?

Will then ponder the dilemma..
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In case anyone is looking for one...AE has the FT aluminum "u braces" in stock right now
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I do agree that taking off weight on the car is not as important the right tires or driving around the track without crashing.
But guys on these threads love to have the latest and greatest tips and tricks.

But RC Tech is a unique universe where a guy I put multiple laps on can give others and myself set up advice.

Before you take a guys word for gold check there racing resume, you might be getting advice from a guy who would be lap traffic for you.

The closest Track (AKA HB Race Way) to me is horribly bumpy and traction is non existent so getting rid of weight there does not work.
LIES!!!!!!!LIES I TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!

it's preposterous that my car works better with a square pack vs a shorty!
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Old 04-01-2014, 12:16 PM   #3042
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More weight = more traction??!!!??



1200 lb car. These teams spend $1000s on titanium, magnesium and carbon fiber. You'd think they'd want more traction.
stop being logical.

oh and if I drove that car it would wheelie even harder.... because me driving = more weight
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So I have the 3 insert in the front and 1mm washer instead of 2mm on the shock tower and the car is still pushing
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Wild Cherry:

You mentioned having a dialed Losi 22 setup. Please PM that to me :-)
(Indoor clay track)

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I do agree that taking off weight on the car is not as important the right tires or driving around the track without crashing.
But guys on these threads love to have the latest and greatest tips and tricks.

But RC Tech is a unique universe where a guy I put multiple laps on can give others and myself set up advice.

Before you take a guys word for gold check there racing resume, you might be getting advice from a guy who would be lap traffic for you.

The closest Track (AKA HB Race Way) to me is horribly bumpy and traction is non existent so getting rid of weight there does not work.

I disagree, a guy could be better then you at setup but suck at wheeling a car. Hara could put multiple laps on his mechanic. If I need setup advice guess who I'm listening to.
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