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Old 03-16-2014, 05:54 PM   #2251
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Looking for an unbiased opinion on which buggy you prefer. AE b5m or tlr 22 2.0 (mm). Not looking to start a war just a simple question for the guys who have both and have done side by side testing. I currently have a 22 2.0 with rocket rc nrass anti squat and rear camber block base. Last night was my first outing with it and it was rather rough bc i was trying to break in new front tires and it was also my first time on the track with it. Didnt do bad at all, was just a lap off pace from my rear motor car, which i was very comfortable with. I know it takes a little time to get used to mid motor so im not thinking about switching it back until ive had enough time to adjust. Im all for any car that makes me faster but i have to feel comfortable with it first.
I drove both yesterday. 2nd race weekend on my B5M and me and my buddy swapped cars after the races in practice. He has a 22 2.0 mm setup the same as yours. IMO the 22 was great, it turned well and had tons of rear bite. My B5M was more forgiving and drove much the same, lots of side bite and forward traction. I could throw it around more and it didn't get out of shape.
I picked up a lap and my lap times were much more consistent with the B5M, I want to try flat arms and tower just to see what it does. Right now I'm running Kody Numendahl's setup exactly, car is a bit heavy... 1608 rtr
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Old 03-16-2014, 06:05 PM   #2253
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well I finished my backyard outdoor track this morning.. I made a 35 x 80 track.. dirt is a clay and dirt mix.. did about 7 tabletops and doubles.. 2 triples and some rollers and bump section.. lanes are only 5-6 ft wide as that's whats on my tractor with my tiller.

I tried a couple different tires at first.. ended up with proline mini steps in back and 4 row wide ribs in front... made just a few changes to car and it was dialed.. at one point I had to much rear traction and had to move battery forward with one small spacer behind battery.

i am amazed how easy the car is to dial into different track conditions.. it was a blast driving outside again..
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I drove both yesterday. 2nd race weekend on my B5M and me and my buddy swapped cars after the races in practice. He has a 22 2.0 mm setup the same as yours. IMO the 22 was great, it turned well and had tons of rear bite. My B5M was more forgiving and drove much the same, lots of side bite and forward traction. I could throw it around more and it didn't get out of shape.
I picked up a lap and my lap times were much more consistent with the B5M, I want to try flat arms and tower just to see what it does. Right now I'm running Kody Numendahl's setup exactly, car is a bit heavy... 1608 rtr
Thanks for that reply! Really appreciate the un-biased opinion. I think i will just fo ahead and get a b5m to test with and see which i feel more comfortable with that way i dont get flamed on here...again
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well I finished my backyard outdoor track this morning.. I made a 35 x 80 track.. dirt is a clay and dirt mix.. did about 7 tabletops and doubles.. 2 triples and some rollers and bump section.. lanes are only 5-6 ft wide as that's whats on my tractor with my tiller.

I tried a couple different tires at first.. ended up with proline mini steps in back and 4 row wide ribs in front... made just a few changes to car and it was dialed.. at one point I had to much rear traction and had to move battery forward with one small spacer behind battery.

i am amazed how easy the car is to dial into different track conditions.. it was a blast driving outside again..
What's your setup?
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Where are the rear tower mounts breaking. Thinking about making a carbon brace all the way across to strengthen it up a bit
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Where are the rear tower mounts breaking. Thinking about making a carbon brace all the way across to strengthen it up a bit
The actual tower isn't breaking a seperated small lower part that holds the rear castor links. I didn't break anything at Cactus went to another track last night and landed hard on the left rear wheel.

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Looking for an unbiased opinion on which buggy you prefer. AE b5m or tlr 22 2.0 (mm). Not looking to start a war just a simple question for the guys who have both and have done side by side testing. I currently have a 22 2.0 with rocket rc nrass anti squat and rear camber block base. Last night was my first outing with it and it was rather rough bc i was trying to break in new front tires and it was also my first time on the track with it. Didnt do bad at all, was just a lap off pace from my rear motor car, which i was very comfortable with. I know it takes a little time to get used to mid motor so im not thinking about switching it back until ive had enough time to adjust. Im all for any car that makes me faster but i have to feel comfortable with it first.
I've owned both and just sold my 22 2.0 and kept the b5m.
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On the sugared Cactus classic track the b5m was much more effective and a plain blast to drive hard in the corners. Taking the b5m to a clay indoor track sat night and the car only felt slightly better than my b5rm.

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I think any of the new buggies are good.. personal pref and maybe what and who are available around you for helping out makes a big impact on what you choose too.

As for my outdoor setup so far.. its raining now so my track will start to melt together.. and setup may change a little... but earlier it was loose to med. traction.

I used white springs front, arms just above bones level, 1.6 tapered pistons, 35wt. oil, 2mm blue spacer under tower ballstud, arms stock location and 1 deg. neg camber with 0 toe. I have a xp1015 servo.. its full size.. and personal trans mounted ontop of it. battery was just a shorty with one big spacer and one small spacer in front of battery and one small spacer behind it. for rear I had hubs all the way forward, I had no spacer under ball cup on tower mount, moved to outside hole on hub, green spring, 1.6 tapered piston, 30 wt oil, stock shock locations, 2 deg neg camber with 3/1 block. ride height bones level in back.
I did use the 72 spur with 33 pin. with reedy stock motor..
car was really really good and totally hooked up.
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Whats funny is HB doesn't even make a 2WD buggy!
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It's a HB "PROTOTYPE"
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I havent won a race in awhile but this b5m killed it today by far the smoothest car i have ever diven and my gearing for my 17.5 is so on point.
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Impressive!

Regarding any hooking issues, I haven't had any hooking issues myself at OCRC. I'd like to get a set of flat front A-arms to try out since I'm just not sure how much it will change the feel of the car on a nice grip indoor clay track. After putting the Pucks system in my B5M I'm struggling getting the car dialed in again.

I sold my 2nd B5M (still in box) to a friend so I'm on the hunt for another one. If anyone knows of a place with them in stock please post it up here!
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I've owned both and just sold my 22 2.0 and kept the b5m.
Right on. Would you care to elaborate on this a little? Was your 2.0 mid motor? What key things do you like better about the b5m compared to the 2.0?
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