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Old 07-22-2016, 09:54 PM
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so i already know i'm way behind on trying out the 3 gear trans but after seeing my brother run his i'm gonna try it out. i'm also gonna try out the vrp pistons for the first time. looking forward to playing this weekend
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gotta say i dig the three gear transmission. i was looking through amain and i saw the schelle 0.5mm offset caster blocks. does anyone have these and what are your thoughts about them?

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Picked up a 1 race day b5m lite for my 8yr old. Turning radius is wide. Tires were right. Checked kick up and its 25 degrees. added roll. Still seems like a wide arc. Anyone know if this is common? I have not built a b5m and would appreciate any tips. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by JAE
Picked up a 1 race day b5m lite for my 8yr old. Turning radius is wide. Tires were right. Checked kick up and its 25 degrees. added roll. Still seems like a wide arc. Anyone know if this is common? I have not built a b5m and would appreciate any tips. Thanks!
Could it be something as simple as the epa on your transmitter? Or are you saying it is pushing?
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Originally Posted by JAE
Picked up a 1 race day b5m lite for my 8yr old. Turning radius is wide. Tires were right. Checked kick up and its 25 degrees. added roll. Still seems like a wide arc. Anyone know if this is common? I have not built a b5m and would appreciate any tips. Thanks!
Move the battery forward, Run a 3 gear trans, stiffer rear springs, check to make sure the previous owner didnt install steering stop screws
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:15 AM
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I have bent this M2.5 washer on the rear shock shaft "perch" a few times now (new one from Home Depot Racing shown here). By "bent" i mean the inner washer hole hogs out allowing the piston to drop to the bottom of the shock.

Question: does this have to do with the amount of limiters/ amount or droop ? or something else. thanks for any insight.

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Old 07-26-2016, 10:32 AM
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Did most this but will try the battery forward. Not something Ive seen others have to do with oher b5m lite's ive driven. Have white springs all the way around. Are there steering block shin adjustments or Ackerman adjustments on these? Thx all!

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Move the battery forward, Run a 3 gear trans, stiffer rear springs, check to make sure the previous owner didnt install steering stop screws
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Did most this but will try the battery forward. Not something Ive seen others have to do with oher b5m lite's ive driven. Have white springs all the way around. Are there steering block shin adjustments or Ackerman adjustments on these? Thx all!
Ackerman is adjusted by adding or removing spacers under the balls on the steering rack.

The steering stops are just button head screws you can add to limit steering travel...See pic
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Thx! I will check for steering stops. Is steering added by adding or removing shims under balls on steering rack


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Ackerman is adjusted by adding or removing spacers under the balls on the steering rack.

The steering stops are just button head screws you can add to limit steering travel...See pic
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Thx! I will check for steering stops. Is steering added by adding or removing shims under balls on steering rack
I recommend downloading the manual from Associated, and starting with the Stock setup.

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Per manual, "If corner entry is too aggressive, try increasing Ackerman by...taking away shims from the steering rack"...

So, increasing Ackerman this way will decrease steering making turn in more stable? I'm not sure I'm interpreting this properly. I thought increasing Ackerman aided in a tighter turning radius? Sometimes the on power vs off power steering confuses me. I'm looking for a tighter turning radius in 90 and 180 degree turns (not high speed sweepers)
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Originally Posted by JAE
Per manual, "If corner entry is too aggressive, try increasing Ackerman by...taking away shims from the steering rack"...

So, increasing Ackerman this way will decrease steering making turn in more stable? I'm not sure I'm interpreting this properly. I thought increasing Ackerman aided in a tighter turning radius? Sometimes the on power vs off power steering confuses me. I'm looking for a tighter turning radius in 90 and 180 degree turns (not high speed sweepers)
just try it and judge for yourself. I always fell like I have smoother steering with more washers and more aggressive with less. it is an easy change to just try.
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Originally Posted by JAE
Picked up a 1 race day b5m lite for my 8yr old. Turning radius is wide. Tires were right. Checked kick up and its 25 degrees. added roll. Still seems like a wide arc. Anyone know if this is common? I have not built a b5m and would appreciate any tips. Thanks!
My B5m lite steers really well off power in 90 and 180 corners. And it's built according to the manual. I think you are just so used to your xray.
BTW... I used to run white springs all around .. when I changed to green springs at the back. I got more steering and on power rear traction in the corners ...that's with 1.7 pistons (27.5 wt) at the rear and 1.6 (30 wt) in front
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Thx all ! Think I am used to my xb2's. But, I've seen some b5m's with wicked steering.'I'll take the shims off and try then experiment with the caster inserts. Phil - hope to see you tmw .
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My B5m lite steers really well off power in 90 and 180 corners. And it's built according to the manual. I think you are just so used to your xray.
BTW... I used to run white springs all around .. when I changed to green springs at the back. I got more steering and on power rear traction in the corners ...that's with 1.7 pistons (27.5 wt) at the rear and 1.6 (30 wt) in front
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Originally Posted by JAE
Sometimes the on power vs off power steering confuses me. I'm looking for a tighter turning radius in 90 and 180 degree turns (not high speed sweepers)
It depends on your driving style, but assuming you're not trying to slide the car around...

Classical line is to decelerate as you approach the corner, and arc towards the apex. Since you are slowing down, weight is transferring to the front and allowing the front wheels to grip and turn (off-power steering).

After you hit the apex, you will start to accelerate out of the corner, weight will transfer to the rear, but you will still be steering (on-power) because you are still going through the corner.

In general, more weight on the front end will improve steering. Off-power, if you need more steering, more weight transfer to the front end will improve steering. On-power, less weight transfer to the rear end will improve steering.

There are other things that affect steering, but this is the basic concept.
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