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Old 04-05-2016, 07:45 AM   #19426
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Dieseled primes, but have switched to akas but don't have a lot of time on them yet. Schelle slipper almost locked out.
primes have more grip than smoothies for sure. Which is what I am currently running. You dont find the car too soft with those springs? not tippy? Are you running 4wd fronts?
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Front 1.4x3 32.5 grey flat arms standard links, +1mm inside.

Rear 1.6 30 blue rear motor rams -2 inside +2 on hub

But like I said I've been changing roll centers to find something that works, but the above setup is what I generally have been running.

Mod setup vs stock setup is not even close from what I've found
Look below.

I know on the rear I ran the schelle camber block and ran the 2nd inner hole, no washers on it. You had to stiffen the car up a TON to get it to not traction roll and be too touchy.

What toe and anti squat? I would run 3x1, and then negative 5 on the rear hubs.
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Here is Hump's last 3 gear setup. Note the usage of the schelle rear camber mount.

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Whats with the lay down transmission? Someone give me the dummy version lol.

edit... so after a google search, apparently it just moves the parts down to lower the center of gravity?
Pretty much. But it also moves the motor forward a ways. Which helps balance the car out when its on carpet or turf.
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primes have more grip than smoothies for sure. Which is what I am currently running. You dont find the car too soft with those springs? not tippy? Are you running 4wd fronts?
No, 2wd fronts. I am running those springs because the front tires had so much grip, with the front stiffer than the rear it would snap roll.
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Look below.

I know on the rear I ran the schelle camber block and ran the 2nd inner hole, no washers on it. You had to stiffen the car up a TON to get it to not traction roll and be too touchy.

What toe and anti squat? I would run 3x1, and then negative 5 on the rear hubs.
3.5 rear toe is too much I would think, would lose a lot of forward bite. What's the advantage of the schelle camber block vs the flipable associated?
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No, 2wd fronts. I am running those springs because the front tires had so much grip, with the front stiffer than the rear it would snap roll.
try 4wd front, really smooths out the car.
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Isn't that illegal?
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I know on the rear I ran the schelle camber block and ran the 2nd inner hole, no washers on it. You had to stiffen the car up a TON to get it to not traction roll and be too touchy.

What toe and anti squat? I would run 3x1, and then negative 5 on the rear hubs.
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If you are fighting traction rolling take out some droop. Its possibly the most effective way to eliminate traction rolling without destroying the handling everywhere else on the track.
So more limiters is what you're saying?
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Isn't that illegal?
unless it has changed in the last couple weeks....almost everyone at srs runs 4wd fronts. Just something to try. Personally, I run stiffer springs than you. But softer is fine and gains steering, just too edgy for me.
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unless it has changed in the last couple weeks....almost everyone at srs runs 4wd fronts. Just something to try. Personally, I run stiffer springs than you. But softer is fine and gains steering, just too edgy for me.
It's not edgy if you make other changes to support it. I'm gonna probably run Thursday with how the car is now then spend Friday and Saturday testing some ideas.
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It's not edgy if you make other changes to support it. I'm gonna probably run Thursday with how the car is now then spend Friday and Saturday testing some ideas.
maybe, I have tried a bunch of things the last couple years and always liked the stiffer springs. But this current track has less bite than we had 2 months ago. And softening up my car is something I want to look at. I wont get a practice day for a couple more weeks. There are a few people running blue fronts and blue rears with 3 limiters front and rear. I guess this is something tommy is/was doing. Honestly, the track changes so much on sundays that it is hard to make the car perfect. I think Chris is running the races on thursdays and it might be a better track.
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b6 already huh
thats the rumor, who knows for sure.
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thats the rumor, who knows for sure.
While that sounds exciting...it has only been 2 years...I find it hard to believe the b5m is being replaced already. I could believe that they are making a carpet car, that is completely different much more. Brent did tell me at cactus that the B5m would not get a laydown tranny and that would be something for a next gen car... Was he hinting at a next gen car? no idea, as I didnt press him for info. I asked him about cavs laydown at catus as well and was told that was something they cooked up for the worlds warmup. Not anything new. Not even what was run at the worlds. In the conversation we also talked about how the b5m would be illegal for roar as a laydown car because a saddle pack would not fit. That is when he said it would require a whole new car. I am paraphasing for sure.

So yeah a new car would be awesome. I have heard rumors of something "new" coming that was not a B5M. But it has only been 2 years and I would be surprised. But anything is possible. If AE thinks this is something they need to keep market share, then I am sure it is forth coming.
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