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Old 01-19-2016, 03:50 PM   #17926
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What affect would leaving out the droop limiters have when building the shocks?
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Old 01-19-2016, 05:58 PM   #17927
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What affect would leaving out the droop limiters have when building the shocks?
More (less droop /downtravel): The car changes direction faster,and corners flatter. It feels generally more responsive. Adding a lot of travel limiters is only advisable on smooth tracks.

Less (more droop /downtravel): Less internal shock spacers give better handling on bumpy tracks,and more and more consistent traction on difficult tracks. The car also land better after jumps.

The end with the least downtravel will feel the most stable,and the most direct. But try to keep a balance (front and rear end droop about the same). especially on low-grip tracks.

Adding more internal travel limiters is a very effective way of reducing traction rolls,if not the most effective way.


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Old 01-19-2016, 09:48 PM   #17928
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2 inch. Unless you are running an extremely long link, then use a 2.1".
The FL kit comes with 1 7/8" blue titanium turnbuckles. I ordered a Lunsford kit and for whatever reason the links are shorter, and I bent two of them in the same spot (left rear). I went ahead and ordered 1 7/8" links from Lunsford's site and have been good since. 2-2.1" might be pushing it a bit unless you are running real long links.
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Old 01-19-2016, 10:13 PM   #17929
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I've had high end Orion and Futaba servos go out on me. Last one was the Orion and it went out on the second race night. All of my Savox servos have been reliable.
I've had good luck with the Savox 1273TG servo and it is under $100. My only issue with Savox servos is they tend to be a bit on the loud side.
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Old 01-19-2016, 10:24 PM   #17930
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B5M FL 17.5T high grip carpet:

I broke a blue titanium front caster turnbuckle on my B5M FL today on only it's 2nd pack run in the car.

IMHO my car was the only one landing smoothly like a cat this afternoon with 1/4in front and 5/16in rear silicone tubing bottoming out bumpers. Just slice down the side of the tubing, pull up the spring and slip it around the shock shaft, zip tie around the piece so it stays on the shaft and not deform and slip off. Easy to remove if you don't like it. Basically free.

As for shock tower taking all the force...isn't it anyway? When the car bottoms out all the force hits the dead stop...aka the bottom cap of the shock and spring retainer/turnbuckle..... Yes the shock absorber dampens it for most of the energy transfer, but equal force is applied to the shock tower. What is better, a hard thump into dead stop or travel limit screws, or a squishy bumper that keeps the chassis about 1/8in in off the deck when it bottoms out? My 2 cents for high grip carpet and "sauce".

Well...actually I suppose the bottom of the car slaps the ground and takes the force, the shocks still have some travel in them.

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Old 01-19-2016, 10:28 PM   #17931
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the Savox 1257tg is the one you want - direct from Savox, is $60 shipped and they ship quick! I just posted about using the Losi horn as well - like it's made for this kit. 25T is what you want for a Savox servo. with the 1257tg, there is just enough space to "back and forth" the servo wire behind the servo and tuck in for a clean install. 1257 vs 1258 - the 1257 is faster, 1258 more torque.

The Losi horn is threaded standard - I just drilled the threads out a bit then tapped with a metric screw / 2mm - same size as the steering ball stud... or use a tap if you have it.

hope that helps.
Another option for an aluminum servo horn is: http://www.exotekracing.com/ae-heavy...orn-7075-f-25/

Fits great in the B5M and is already threaded for the metric ball studs.

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For those of you who sauce your tires...
Do you apply it to the Rears Only? or Front and Rear?
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Can someone explaine the bold part in my quote, did not get it.
Never heard before. Sound a little cra cra.

Use X rings on your shock build is the norm and adjust package to reflect the amount of travel. That post feels like a slam on AE more then a helpful post.

Kody N. has posted some good shock package info on Facebook, may want to take a look.
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Full rears and inside-half on the fronts @3~5 minutes before you power up. "Not sure if it's a trade secret but anyone doing it right will not be slamming into mine or anyone else's car as often and competition makes you a better driver. Control is a lot safer than out-of-control...

Or is it. Out-of-control is faster than slower in-control?
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For those of you who sauce your tires...
Do you apply it to the Rears Only? or Front and Rear?
All tires all over. Enough time for them to dry just before track time is what I have been to,d.
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Does anyone have any idea when the B5M Lite will be back in stock at AE?? It's been unavailable for months.
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Does anyone have any idea when the B5M Lite will be back in stock at AE?? It's been unavailable for months.
Tower says February. Good thing I ordered when I did. Seems everyone is out. 2 stores by me have a CE kit in Stock each but that is it
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Does anyone have any idea when the B5M Lite will be back in stock at AE?? It's been unavailable for months.
How bad ya want one. I'm not running mine right now and it has Pucks and Aura Ceramics in the trans
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I don't know why you would limit the shock that way. If you land crooked you'd want that extra travel. If you think your chassis is slapping way to much you should change your shock package instead of limiting it more.
The idea isn't really limiting travel, it only leaves 1 mm of lost travel. What it does is keep the chassis from dragging on the ground and scrubbing speed. On clay it will also reduce the amount of clay packed into the transmission mounting screw heads.
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GP shows 2/15 for availability.
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