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Old 01-04-2016, 11:39 AM   #17611
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Yeah, that is the one... lol. Did you get yours yet?
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Old 01-04-2016, 11:47 AM   #17612
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Yeah, that is the one... lol. Did you get yours yet?
It's in the mail.
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Old 01-04-2016, 06:50 PM   #17613
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It's in the mail.
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Old 01-04-2016, 11:25 PM   #17614
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Running it +2 will give you less rear traction in the corners than running it -2. So try one way, if you don't like it, flip the bar.
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Higher is lower rolcenter on the brace, so lowgrip general you want higher rolcenter. So lower on the brace.
Pretty sure that is backwards. A higher roll center is less chassis roll, so less grip in corners. Running the -2mm should lower grip.

The diagram here shows this well:
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Another way of thinking of it is; the farther away from CG the roll center is, the more the chassis will roll.
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From what I been told, more grip - remove washers from shock tower ballstud, you want less grip add them in.
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"Grip" is too loose of a term. It's more about when the outside tire is planted in the corner. If the chassis is allowed to roll further, the grip will be made after the chassis is allowed to roll and starts to plant the outside tires. The overall amount of traction could actually be higher by allowing the chassis to roll further but it will occur at a slower rate. If you have a high grip condition, this slower rate is a good thing and gives a small amount of cushion before the traction starts to build. Of course, if you don't have a balanced shock package, you can pretty much flush roll center adjustments down the toilet.
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If 1-2 months, I would buy now. If 3+ months, maybe wait. AE normally does update on a 12 month cycle, "If they plan to do one". That would me an updated buggy "could" come out in 3-5 months. If they even update the Lite kit. IMO it would just be option parts, as I hear AE has no desire to make a lay down tranny.
the CRCRC curse is coming. It seems like every year, guys buy new kits for CRCRC's race in Jan and while we are at that race (or just before), they announce a new kit
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Old 01-05-2016, 11:51 AM   #17618
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Pretty sure that is backwards. A higher roll center is less chassis roll, so less grip in corners. Running the -2mm should lower grip.

The diagram here shows this well:
http://www.rccaraction.com/blog/2014...center-tuning/

Another way of thinking of it is; the farther away from CG the roll center is, the more the chassis will roll.
This true. Roll center is really is about the angle of the link relative to the ground. The longer your link, the lower your roll center should be as it will reduce the angle of the link. From what I understand the angle is inverted on the B5M so actually by lowering the inside I think you are raising the roll center. It seems a little counter intuitive but if you are using the stock hub in the book position I think roll center goes up when you lower the inner. Somebody else brought this to my attention and I believe its correct.
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hope its just a new 4wd lol
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hope its just a new 4wd lol
I can only hope. if they make a good one, I might get back into wheeler. I was just unhappy with the current offerings.
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This true. Roll center is really is about the angle of the link relative to the ground. The longer your link, the lower your roll center should be as it will reduce the angle of the link. From what I understand the angle is inverted on the B5M so actually by lowering the inside I think you are raising the roll center. It seems a little counter intuitive but if you are using the stock hub in the book position I think roll center goes up when you lower the inner. Somebody else brought this to my attention and I believe its correct.
so camberlinks : on hub / shocktower \ hub gives lower rollcenter an less grip.
camberlinks on hub \ shocktower / hub gives higher rollcenter an more grip.
i was indeed wrong in rollcenter vs grip explenation., but wright about the camberlinks and grip.



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the CRCRC curse is coming. It seems like every year, guys buy new kits for CRCRC's race in Jan and while we are at that race (or just before), they announce a new kit

I do think something is on the way for 2 and 4 wheel drive. I think a new offering in 2wd is more likely first. The B5M CE is sold out most places and the FL edition seems to be in short supply. Neither are in stock at AE. I am hoping we see a little something at the Reedy race.
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Did some running at ocrc last night and played with camber links.I'm running the aluminum hubs and schelle rear camber link mount. Moved the links on the hub from the rear inner hole to the front outter and front inner. Moving the link to the outter hole definitely gave more roll. It did keep the rear from rolling in the corners. When I went to the inside hole, or shortest possible location, the rear was noticeably flatter and changed directions much quicker. I stayed with the shorter link because this is a high bite track (running electrons in mc sauced with wd40). With the longer link the car seemed lazy but easy to drive. I also had to use more brake to get it to turn, so I was able to get faster laps with a shorter link. That was what I noticed from running it.

In the front I'm running inner hole on both the tower and caster block. Didn't move the link but did take out the 2mm spacer. That tightened up the turning radius of the car and it helped the rear with changing direction faster. Just some observations. I think the best thing people can do is not be afraid to try different things. It's just one run: don't like it, change it back. Real world running does much more good than pages of talking about theory.....
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What spring are you running in the front and rear and also what wt shock oil(and brand)?
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