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Old 11-08-2015, 04:12 PM   #16606
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Probably not the same track conditions as we run on a wet clay surface with slicks. The traction is super high, with wheelies fairly common on the straights. So even with near perfect traction, the car pushed through turns with the 4 degree trailing inserts. I might not even describe it as a push, but the car turned really lazy on entry and mid corner. Normally I would say a push is most likely the wrong tires, but in my case I knew the tires we ran had the right traction.
If it's wet most likely the surface will be tacky so that did contribute, that's why they should run the track dry the same as we do then you have a variant
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Old 11-08-2015, 04:26 PM   #16607
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I have a question, I just finished building my 2nd B5m(Lite version this time) and was wondering if I could get some ideas on how you set your ball diff once you build it and it's installed in the car. I see setup sheets that say tight and standard ball diff and I'm not sure how to do this. Also what track conditions would use a tight setup or a standard setup.
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Old 11-08-2015, 04:41 PM   #16608
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Rivkin gives some explanation details on flat and gull wing arms in the video with him and Cav in it. I wish I could link it. It was on Neobuggy November 6th. Cheers
Just watched that video...... Holly Crap.
Glad those guys race for a living. Just as bad if not worse than listening to Ronefalk ( don't care if its spelled wrong) talk about VRC!

But... I got the answers that I needed, so well done on the information part. Hopefully, AE will splurge for speech coaches for their drivers!
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In stock 17.5 most running a 72 or 69 spur?
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In stock 17.5 most running a 72 or 69 spur?
What buggy you running? The new kits have 2 included
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Old 11-08-2015, 06:45 PM   #16611
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I have a question, I just finished building my 2nd B5m(Lite version this time) and was wondering if I could get some ideas on how you set your ball diff once you build it and it's installed in the car. I see setup sheets that say tight and standard ball diff and I'm not sure how to do this. Also what track conditions would use a tight setup or a standard setup.
Usually a 1/8th turn back from the spring fully compressed is a good setting. Ask someone at the track who looks like they know what they are doing to check it for you.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:13 PM   #16612
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In stock 17.5 most running a 72 or 69 spur?
Most of the people I race with are 66 or 69
Depends of the motor I guess
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Most of the people I race with are 66 or 69
Depends of the motor I guess
Ty. Going to try a 69 been running a 72 forever and want to see how it effects the handling with motor position.
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4 gear transmissions, 3 gear, low 3 gear. Why not just make a 2 gear? Even quicker response.
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4 gear transmissions, 3 gear, low 3 gear. Why not just make a 2 gear? Even quicker response.
It was never about response. It was always about handling and centering the motor.
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Just watched that video...... Holly Crap.
Glad those guys race for a living. Just as bad if not worse than listening to Ronefalk ( don't care if its spelled wrong) talk about VRC!

But... I got the answers that I needed, so well done on the information part. Hopefully, AE will splurge for speech coaches for their drivers!
Yea it looked like rivkin was reading from a script.
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Old 11-09-2015, 06:20 AM   #16617
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4 gear transmissions, 3 gear, low 3 gear. Why not just make a 2 gear? Even quicker response.
Not enough space for the axle, spur, and motor, for the gear ratios required. Without an idler the spur can't be very big or it hits the axle-outdrive etc, and won't reach the needed motor pinion. At least not in any way I can figure out. Belt drive maybe, but I don't think they run as free.
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Ok guys... Im going to go full noob retard with a couple questions here.

Back story... My daughter has move up into the 2wd buggy world and is doing great. Was battling for the win / bump in the B main yesterday but had an ESC switch go screwy... She is running my 3 year old 22 2.0 witch is still plenty fast but due for an over haul. At this point its going to be cheaper to get a full kit than rebuild.

And now Im stuck between the B5M ( regular, Lite, or CE) or the new 22 3.0.
I can tune and know what to adjust, so that's not going to be an issue. I already own a 44.2 so it will be nice not to have to worry about buying different rims for 2 different cars so that's a plus.

Really, I just need some clarification on set-ups, adding weight ( if you need to) and what people have found if they have switched from a 22 to B5.

Would it be better to get the Lite than the regular... besides being 75 grams lighter, is it really better?
Whats the difference with the 3 gear and 4 gear tranny? ( besides that one other idle gear)
Flat arms or Gull wing? (is it the same situation like with the SC10/T4.2 arms)?
Now with the cars being designed to run MM, are you guys adding weight like they had to do with the 22 ( tried it, spent $80 in brass, got pissed and sold it all, along with the MM parts swearing never to try MM again)

Maybe Im just looking for someone to talk me into it. I would just hate to buy a new kit and watch her struggle and loose interest or something.
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What's the name of the track bud,? My ex wife brother's wife is born in Maine
We have a bunch, Granite Leisure Time in Oakland, Me. Evolution in Casco Maine. (Both those are primarily clay) But the one old school track is Hillside raceway in Deerfield NH. About an hour and 15 minutes from me. We're also fortunate to have an indoor AstroTurf track in York, Me. (Maximus)
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Just watched that video...... Holly Crap.
Glad those guys race for a living. Just as bad if not worse than listening to Ronefalk ( don't care if its spelled wrong) talk about VRC!

But... I got the answers that I needed, so well done on the information part. Hopefully, AE will splurge for speech coaches for their drivers!
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Yea it looked like rivkin was reading from a script.
For the record, I didn't watch the video. That said, he's a 16 year old kid racing R/C cars. He's not some NASCAR driver groomed to do interviews, cut him some slack sheesh. Cav has been racing a long time and doesn't exactly give NASCAR quality interviews either.
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