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Old 08-28-2015, 09:19 AM   #15331
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if i just take care of those simple things, and maybe change my name to be a tool, i might be able to make the a in club races like you do.
Whoever said he makes the A in club races?
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hhmm.. moderator decisions... Do I clean up the last page of posts to keep the thread more or less on topic, or do I leave them because they are absolte comedy gold... decisions decisions
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gotta leave em! nobody was butt hurt. all in good fun.
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Ok, to turn this thing around....

Anyone try the SMC turnbuckles? Price is great. I've got some on the way for my T5M.
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Got a new B5m Lite, reedy blackbox and mach2 17.5... took it out to the track and really love it... I only have one issue and that's my front wheels don't seem to be making good contact. I'm having pretty serious "push" or understeer. I experience it mostly mid to late corner and it's especially bad once I get on the throttle a bit, even if just easing into the throttle, it pushes quite badly. Setup is box stock, just like the manual says. Any tips for curing this issue without causing unmanageable oversteer? My tail end is solid as a rock and would like to keep it planted. Thanks!
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Got a new B5m Lite, reedy blackbox and mach2 17.5... took it out to the track and really love it... I only have one issue and that's my front wheels don't seem to be making good contact. I'm having pretty serious "push" or understeer. I experience it mostly mid to late corner and it's especially bad once I get on the throttle a bit, even if just easing into the throttle, it pushes quite badly. Setup is box stock, just like the manual says. Any tips for curing this issue without causing unmanageable oversteer? My tail end is solid as a rock and would like to keep it planted. Thanks!
A post like this with the vehicles listed in your sig. always makes me ask. How much experience do you have driving a 2wd buggy? Is this a set up issue or do you need to adapt your driving style to the inherent push that all 2wd buggies have on power..?

Where do you race?
What tires are you running? Are they the same as the local fast guys?
What battery are you running, shorty or brick?
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Got a new B5m Lite, reedy blackbox and mach2 17.5... took it out to the track and really love it... I only have one issue and that's my front wheels don't seem to be making good contact. I'm having pretty serious "push" or understeer. I experience it mostly mid to late corner and it's especially bad once I get on the throttle a bit, even if just easing into the throttle, it pushes quite badly. Setup is box stock, just like the manual says. Any tips for curing this issue without causing unmanageable oversteer? My tail end is solid as a rock and would like to keep it planted. Thanks!
My B5M understeered out of the box. Of course i like more steering than the average joe. Everyone that drives my cars tells me that they have to much steering/too aggresive.

I put the 2mm axles in and tuned with roll centers.

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A post like this with the vehicles listed in your sig. always makes me ask. How much experience do you have driving a 2wd buggy? Is this a set up issue or do you need to adapt your driving style to the inherent push that all 2wd buggies have on power..?

Where do you race?
What tires are you running? Are they the same as the local fast guys?
What battery are you running, shorty or brick?
Appreciate your patience with me, here goes:

zero experience with 2wd buggy, literally first time driving one when I took mine out last weekend. I run primarily outdoor, but going to start indoor racing at LSR in Sacramento soon. The surface is a medium-high bite well-prepped clay surface.

I was running with a friend who has a bit more experience and his B5m seemed to find the inside line more easily, although, I realize this is very hard to tell just by watching the buggy, i didn't drive his, so I can't say 100%, but i'm like 90% sure I've got a minor setup issue.

I'm running Dirt Webs Gold in the rear and Proline Electron MC front. Most fast guys seem to be running dirt webs gold on all corners. Shop was out of Dirt Web fronts so I went with the electron. Local guy said Electrons are fine too.. but no one seems to run them if they can get dirt webs. I've run barcodes on my SCT410.3 at the track with pretty good results...

Battery is an interesting question since this was one of the areas I mean to experiment during my next practice session. I'm running shorties and I have them all the way back. I was thinking, maybe if i moved the shorty all the way forward it would get more weight over the front wheels and help reduce my understeer.
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HoldDaMayo---It sounds like you are running indoor clay based on your tire choice. I would recommend that you find the matching Gold dirtwebs for the front as tire choice (especially indoor clay) is very important. You should always try to match them up. Also, the condition of those tires indoor are essential. You CANNOT take them out of the package and expect them to be great, there is a break in period...this can be accelerated by running them in on the street. You want the pin of the tire to have an edge similar to /| instead of just a straight 90 up. Tire sauce is also a key ingredient, ask some of the local guys what they use and maybe see if one of them can take your car for a lap to help it out. The Brent Thielke setup on rc10.com is a great starting point for indoor clay. Lastly you cannot drive a 2wd buggy like a 4wd sc or anything else out there really. They take finesse and you may just need to get a few things sorted out and practice practice practice.

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Appreciate your patience with me, here goes:

zero experience with 2wd buggy, literally first time driving one when I took mine out last weekend. I run primarily outdoor, but going to start indoor racing at LSR in Sacramento soon. The surface is a medium-high bite well-prepped clay surface.

I was running with a friend who has a bit more experience and his B5m seemed to find the inside line more easily, although, I realize this is very hard to tell just by watching the buggy, i didn't drive his, so I can't say 100%, but i'm like 90% sure I've got a minor setup issue.

I'm running Dirt Webs Gold in the rear and Proline Electron MC front. Most fast guys seem to be running dirt webs gold on all corners. Shop was out of Dirt Web fronts so I went with the electron. Local guy said Electrons are fine too.. but no one seems to run them if they can get dirt webs. I've run barcodes on my SCT410.3 at the track with pretty good results...

Battery is an interesting question since this was one of the areas I mean to experiment during my next practice session. I'm running shorties and I have them all the way back. I was thinking, maybe if i moved the shorty all the way forward it would get more weight over the front wheels and help reduce my understeer.
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My biggest struggle was trying to figure out what a 2wd buggy was suppose to feel like. Along with what Matt said about tires. While each driver has a certain style, letting a "fast" or seasoned racer drive you car and give their input on how it's driving can be huge in helping you understand if it's the set up or if you need to adapt to the car. What may feel like a huge push, might not be as bad as you think. It could be, well, just the fact that it's a 2wd buggy.
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Appreciate your patience with me, here goes:

zero experience with 2wd buggy, literally first time driving one when I took mine out last weekend. I run primarily outdoor, but going to start indoor racing at LSR in Sacramento soon. The surface is a medium-high bite well-prepped clay surface.

I was running with a friend who has a bit more experience and his B5m seemed to find the inside line more easily, although, I realize this is very hard to tell just by watching the buggy, i didn't drive his, so I can't say 100%, but i'm like 90% sure I've got a minor setup issue.

I'm running Dirt Webs Gold in the rear and Proline Electron MC front. Most fast guys seem to be running dirt webs gold on all corners. Shop was out of Dirt Web fronts so I went with the electron. Local guy said Electrons are fine too.. but no one seems to run them if they can get dirt webs. I've run barcodes on my SCT410.3 at the track with pretty good results...

Battery is an interesting question since this was one of the areas I mean to experiment during my next practice session. I'm running shorties and I have them all the way back. I was thinking, maybe if i moved the shorty all the way forward it would get more weight over the front wheels and help reduce my understeer.
Having just gone through what you are now experiencing a good portion of what you will learn is, a 2WD buggy is all about maximizing the bit of front end grip with out sacrificing too much of the back end traction.

Move that battery all the way forward and you'll be fighting the jumps, always coming in nose heavy and being forced to play the throttle\brake game to come in clean and fast on the landing. Get the buggy balanced for a clean launch with out requiring too much throttle or brake manipulation to get through the jump and onto the landing. For me, I found I was trying to sacrifice rear end traction to gain more steering like it was a TC car and that doesn't work. Still learning myself and finding that I have to relearn how to get through corners clean and fast with a vehicle that requires far more throttle\brake control to enter and get through a corner clean and fast.

I have settled on a setup that is not too far from the kit outlined setup, heavier springs and oil up front, 3 X 1.4 with 35 Associated fluid with gray springs, stock in the rear shock setup except for 32.5 Associated oil, front and rear camber links running them short at both ends, it can be a bit twitchy but the main straight at Nor Cal Hobbies is pretty darn short and still not willing to give up steering for rear traction. Pretty much all the settings after that are kit setup.

As I get better at controlling this buggy I will be forced to get the ass end more loose to get through the corners more quickly, such is life with a 2WD buggy is what I am learning. It has been hard to relearn a new driving style, old habits die hard and I find myself making the same mistakes repeatedly.

Take my points with a grain of salt, just my observations having come back to the hobby and trying to learn how to drive a 2WD buggy quickly on a high bite clay track.
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New from Revolution Design Racing Products and made for the Team Associated B5M buggy is an aluminium low-profile wing mount set. The updated design places the wing 7mm lower than the stock wing mount does, which leads to a lower centre of gravity and improved jumping both over small, medium and large jumps. On top of that the high-quality 7075-T6 aluminium part grants a better support for the wing which leads to better aerodynamics and also improved durability in the event of a crash. The wing mount set is available in blue or black anodising.

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