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Old 08-17-2015, 07:21 PM   #15136
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None that I am aware of. Maybe message mantisworx?
The avid shock bushings don't wear out, at all.

Do NOT use the alloy caps.
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Thanks for the reply. I am actually looking for the machined bushings and spacers that are installed in the bottom of the shock bodies(hat bushings and shock spacer).

Thanks rcbuddha for your reply as well
AH - I thought you meant for the mounts. I have some of these machined bushings, still. I won't ever sell them as they don't make them anymore...
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Yeah, I am not sure why no one filled that hole in the market.
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The avid shock bushings don't wear out, at all.
Do the Avid bushings fit the AE standoffs?
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Do the Avid bushings fit the AE standoffs?
no. the avid bushings are mean to float on the screw. Since the FT mounts had the ball on top of the shock mount, I am sure the avids would be too small of an ID.
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I would like to clear up the rear motor arm thing.

Rear motor arms on a MM should be mounted opposite? L>R R>L?

It gives more traction? Where? Mid corner? Going in? Coming out? Side bite? Forward grip?

I have great forward grip, I would like a little more side bite coming out of corners. 17.5 car running treaded tires. Usually Very well conditioned green Dirt webs, which are always great, but if I can get a little bit more drive out of the corners, I could do even better.
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I would like to clear up the rear motor arm thing.

Rear motor arms on a MM should be mounted opposite? L>R R>L?

It gives more traction? Where? Mid corner? Going in? Coming out? Side bite? Forward grip?

I have great forward grip, I would like a little more side bite coming out of corners. 17.5 car running treaded tires. Usually Very well conditioned green Dirt webs, which are always great, but if I can get a little bit more drive out of the corners, I could do even better.
Yes, they are swapped L/R. They give a slightly shorter wheelbase which puts a little more weight on the back tyres. This will give more rear bite, especially on corner exit. You also get slightly more rear grip under brakes.


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I would like to clear up the rear motor arm thing.

Rear motor arms on a MM should be mounted opposite? L>R R>L?

It gives more traction? Where? Mid corner? Going in? Coming out? Side bite? Forward grip?

I have great forward grip, I would like a little more side bite coming out of corners. 17.5 car running treaded tires. Usually Very well conditioned green Dirt webs, which are always great, but if I can get a little bit more drive out of the corners, I could do even better.
You run them reversed because the sweep is the opposite direction between the RM and MM cars. As stated above, they move your overall static weight towards the rear of the car. More weight over the rear tires gives you more rear traction everywhere.
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Can I assume that the Lite kit comes with the appropriate arms/towers, etc so you don't have to buy and swap parts from the B5 kit like we were initially doing with the B5M?
You assume correct. The lite kit is complete including the flat front arms and appropriate tower. I was amazed how much better it handled fo me than the regular MM.
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I would like to clear up the rear motor arm thing.

Rear motor arms on a MM should be mounted opposite? L>R R>L?

It gives more traction? Where? Mid corner? Going in? Coming out? Side bite? Forward grip?

I have great forward grip, I would like a little more side bite coming out of corners. 17.5 car running treaded tires. Usually Very well conditioned green Dirt webs, which are always great, but if I can get a little bit more drive out of the corners, I could do even better.
If you dont find what you are looking for with changing the rear arms you can try lowering your rear roll center and possibly the front even. Im not sure how many inner ball studs you have on your inner camber links but adding a mm might help keep the car planted on exit. Start with the rear and see what happens and maybe add one to the front as well.

I learned tuning with camber links a lot when the 22 first came out, would change .5mm through out the day if the track was losing grip. hope that helps
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Yes, they are swapped L/R. They give a slightly shorter wheelbase which puts a little more weight on the back tyres. This will give more rear bite, especially on corner exit. You also get slightly more rear grip under brakes.


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Sounds good. I already have them, just have to bolt them on. I will probably try that tomorrow.
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What's with the front rims rubbing on the outside ball cups? I was kind of surprised by that. Thought they may have figured that out here in the 21'st century!
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Hello,

A quick question about piston and shock shaft combos. I have V1 and V2 shafts, I understand there is a difference with the screw and e-clip retention's but can you cross v1 pistons with v2 shafts? I have noticed the AE v1 pistons fit fine and are ever so slightly loose after screwed down, as in it can be rotated once the screw is down. I've also noticed a set of Schelle v1 style pistons fit very snug on the shaft, is that how it 'should' be?

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A quick question about piston and shock shaft combos. I have V1 and V2 shafts, I understand there is a difference with the screw and e-clip retention's but can you cross v1 pistons with v2 shafts? I have noticed the AE v1 pistons fit fine and are ever so slightly loose after screwed down, as in it can be rotated once the screw is down. I've also noticed a set of Schelle v1 style pistons fit very snug on the shaft, is that how it 'should' be?

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Unless you ream out the V2 piston, the hole is too small to fit on a V1 shaft. Accidentally ordered some mixed parts from Amain, didn't realize how messed up their "parts for this car" listing were and ordered a mixed set of parts. Decided this last weekend to rebuild the shocks and change up the piston valving front and rear and the V2 pistons would not fit and I didn't have anything to cleanly ream them out so had to purchase the V1 piston to finish the assembly. Not too sure how they absolutely should sit on the shaft, I would think that having them tight enough to not spin should not change how they perform in their damping characteristics. I will probably just ream out the V2 pistons to the size of the V1 set and keep them as backup set of 2 X 1.6 and 3 X 1.4.
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What's with the front rims rubbing on the outside ball cups? I was kind of surprised by that. Thought they may have figured that out here in the 21'st century!
I'd check what front wheel you are running...none of mine come close to the ball cups.
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