138LikesTeam Associated RC10 B5m Mid-Motor & Rear Motor Thread
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03-17-2014, 08:07 AM
#6393
isn't the difference between arms/tower setup just a CG change?
03-17-2014, 08:16 AM
#6397
Jake
I am just you and many here.
When I purchased my 1.4 x 3 was misinformed they would help smooth out the steering.
Now we both know that's wrong and instead you should expect more steering, specially more off power steering.
I am just you and many here.
When I purchased my 1.4 x 3 was misinformed they would help smooth out the steering.
Now we both know that's wrong and instead you should expect more steering, specially more off power steering.
03-17-2014, 08:18 AM
#6398
So the potential advantage is more steering right? Honestly I'm not sure what people are complaining about...maybe I just really suck but the B5 has plenty of steering. I do find the rear end much more planted than the B4.2 though and in my hands anyway has less of a propensity of spinning out. I really wish my shock end hadn't split in the main yesterday as my B5 was on rails and I felt like I could have moved up in the A Main a bit...not saying I would have won it but I would have done better than last.
03-17-2014, 08:29 AM
#6399
Instead of using gull wings in search of more steering ?
Instead try these instead
Removing shims under rear chassis camber stud
Moving rear hub towards the back
Stiffer rear spring
3 degree a front axle trail
Thicker rear shock oil
Instead try these instead
Removing shims under rear chassis camber stud
Moving rear hub towards the back
Stiffer rear spring
3 degree a front axle trail
Thicker rear shock oil
03-17-2014, 08:35 AM
#6400
even tho total volume is larger, turbulent flow becomes the greatest factor in pack. because the holes are smaller they resist the flow of oil from bottom to top. volume flow is not pack, the resistance to flow is pack.
i terms of feel...for example, with a 1.6 piston in the b4.2 i ran 32.5wt in the front, with a 1.7 piston to get a similar on track feel it required 37.5wt to feel stable, but with a 1.4 piston and an additional hole the shock felt the best with a 35wt.
another way to show this is that in the b5m kit, it uses a 1.7 piston in the rear to use the same 32.5wt oil all around, while most people run a 1.6 with 27.5wt in the rear.
and i am not disputing that the 2x1.6 has more pack then the 3x1.4 as it also adds up to slightly more volume then the 2x1.7 as well anyway.
im most likely wrong. but oh well, its a forum not a text book.
i terms of feel...for example, with a 1.6 piston in the b4.2 i ran 32.5wt in the front, with a 1.7 piston to get a similar on track feel it required 37.5wt to feel stable, but with a 1.4 piston and an additional hole the shock felt the best with a 35wt.
another way to show this is that in the b5m kit, it uses a 1.7 piston in the rear to use the same 32.5wt oil all around, while most people run a 1.6 with 27.5wt in the rear.
and i am not disputing that the 2x1.6 has more pack then the 3x1.4 as it also adds up to slightly more volume then the 2x1.7 as well anyway.
im most likely wrong. but oh well, its a forum not a text book.
(mm) 2 hole 3 hole 4 hole 5 hole 6 hole
1.0 1.571 2.356 3.142 3.927 4.712
1.1 1.901 2.851 3.801 4.752 5.702
1.2 2.262 3.393 4.524 5.655 6.786
1.3 2.655 3.982 5.309 6.637 7.964
1.4 3.079 4.618 6.158 7.697 9.236
1.5 3.534 5.301 7.069 8.836
1.6 4.021 6.032 8.042
1.7 4.540 6.809
03-17-2014, 09:06 AM
#6401
for those of you that travel from track to track with the b5RM, how much does your setup work at each track. The B4 could be run with the same setup indoors or outdoors. I always liked that about the car. I could focus more on driving and less on tuning. I have a feeling the B5M will be a tuners car. But I am still hoping the b5RM is a drop and race car.
03-17-2014, 11:05 AM
#6405
pack isnt the amount of possible flow, its the ability of the fluid to flow. pack is the resistance you get when the fluid attempts to flow through a hole or more.
to get the same flow you need to change oil which is why if you use 1.6 in the front you run 32.5wt as a standard, if you want to run the 1.7 you end up running 37.5wt, and if you run the 1.4 pistons you run 35wt. this is because they have different pack. based off of the fluid used to get the same on track feel, i think its pretty easy to see that more than just hole volume plays a factor in pack and feel.
to get the same flow you need to change oil which is why if you use 1.6 in the front you run 32.5wt as a standard, if you want to run the 1.7 you end up running 37.5wt, and if you run the 1.4 pistons you run 35wt. this is because they have different pack. based off of the fluid used to get the same on track feel, i think its pretty easy to see that more than just hole volume plays a factor in pack and feel.