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Old 07-13-2015, 04:07 PM   #14476
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I am having same problems as bigcracing. I decided to just drive as best I can in 2 outdoor offroad races on hard packed tracks with clay content that dust up as it dries and heats are run on them. I used mainly Blockades M3 for the rear and 4 Rib M3 on the front.

My Factory Lite buggy is stock kit build and the settings with the white spring all around. I run a 13.5 motor, Reedy Brick Square 5200 pack.

So before some major setting changes any suggestions? Just fishtailing so easily for on power steering out of the corner. Many give up and buy the Rear B5 version as well.

Perhaps shorty pack as I have the factory RC carbon strap and shove the battery back, I can even install a Low Profile servo to lighten up the front end. Hell even if one of these companies made a Nylon plastic wing like 1/8 buggies have to put more weight on the back.

What other settings as it will take a serious shift to shave 1.5 to 2 seconds off my 23 second lap times to compete with the top of the B and A guys. I am driving nearly that clean in terms of navigating the track.
Many people like the brass C and D mounts to help with forward bite
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Old 07-13-2015, 05:44 PM   #14477
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I wondered about that too at a time building the Factory Lite. But I used Clear Packaging tape and applied it 3 wide and trimmed with X-Acto knife. Worked pretty good on an indoor track and then 2 outdoor races it it peeling back and probably not protecting that well as it is being torn out in strips.

I am sure the JConcepts or Associated or other brand material works great, but what you really do to access screws on the bottom of chassis?
I have been using the JCon. I have peeled back the rear part several times in order to make adjustments, and it still sticks.
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I have bought 3921 Associated 48P \ 69T Spur (for Tc6.1) by mistake will this fir the B5M?

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I have bought 3921 Associated 48P \ 69T Spur (for Tc6.1) by mistake will this fir the B5M?

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Unless you have a slipper eliminator on your car, then no.
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Unless you have a slipper eliminator on your car, then no.
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I am having same problems as bigcracing. I decided to just drive as best I can in 2 outdoor offroad races on hard packed tracks with clay content that dust up as it dries and heats are run on them. I used mainly Blockades M3 for the rear and 4 Rib M3 on the front.

My Factory Lite buggy is stock kit build and the settings with the white spring all around. I run a 13.5 motor, Reedy Brick Square 5200 pack.

So before some major setting changes any suggestions? Just fishtailing so easily for on power steering out of the corner. Many give up and buy the Rear B5 version as well.

Perhaps shorty pack as I have the factory RC carbon strap and shove the battery back, I can even install a Low Profile servo to lighten up the front end. Hell even if one of these companies made a Nylon plastic wing like 1/8 buggies have to put more weight on the back.

What other settings as it will take a serious shift to shave 1.5 to 2 seconds off my 23 second lap times to compete with the top of the B and A guys. I am driving nearly that clean in terms of navigating the track.
the stock FL setup is for a track with more traction. You may try dropping a spring rate in the rear. Double check your toe. If you have the hubs on backwards it takes toe out.
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I got the new B5M and carbon chassis I am fighting to get more rear bite. I have red front springs and 1.6 piston and 35 fluid. The rear green springs and 1.7 Pistons 30 fluid. Tires are dirt web gold for clay track med grip.
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I am having same problems as bigcracing. I decided to just drive as best I can in 2 outdoor offroad races on hard packed tracks with clay content that dust up as it dries and heats are run on them. I used mainly Blockades M3 for the rear and 4 Rib M3 on the front.
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As Ive posted here before, we run on tracks that vary form low to med traction (usually varying between the two on the same day) and we have found the B5M to be fast in all conditions. It needs a little setup work when the traction is lower, but I still find it as fast as my rear motor car when its slippery and faster when the grip comes up.

You will need to move some weight to the back for lower grip tracks. B5R rear arms shorten the wheelbase a few mm & run the rear hubs in the short wheelbase position. If you are running min weight (shorty pack & carbon chassis) move the ESC rearwards to touch the battery and run the battery at full back position. A low profile servo helps as well.

Installing the rear Brass suspension holders (C & D) will give a lot more forward bite. I run Brass C most of the time on dirt unless it has been sugared.

Bigcracing, the red front spring is VERY stiff and will cause an imbalance in handling (mid corner understeer which can cause exit oversteer). I usually run the same spring colour front and rear (sometimes 1 stiffer on the front).

Ive put together a setup guide for the B5M on outdoors / lower traction tracks based on our findings here in Australia. hope this helps.

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What kind of options are most people running for Mod now? Is the lite chassis a good idea or does it feel funky with more power?
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What chassis protectors do you guys use are there any that you can reuse after you peel it?
Epic 1 chassis armor is a great product. It is completely reusable and can be applied over and over again to get access to the chassis screws when you need to.

It is also easy to trim with a sharp x-acto blade so you can replace sections that may get damaged or worn out (i.e. the tail area) with scrap pieces.

You can get it here and there are also some instructional videos to help with the application:

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Have done all I know to try and plant my ass end under power to no results tried a lot of you guys advice. Running B5R rear arms moved all the way forward +3 anti squat hell I've even slapped a huge fishing weight on the back still ice skates under power
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Any one got a good sc4x4 or 4wd buggy to trade lol! This cars like a woman pretty to look at but such a handful to get like you want it
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Have done all I know to try and plant my ass end under power to no results tried a lot of you guys advice. Running B5R rear arms moved all the way forward +3 anti squat hell I've even slapped a huge fishing weight on the back still ice skates under power
3 deg squat would be bad....I hope you meant toe. you want 1 deg squat.

you either have the wrong tires or too much motor.
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Have done all I know to try and plant my ass end under power to no results tried a lot of you guys advice. Running B5R rear arms moved all the way forward +3 anti squat hell I've even slapped a huge fishing weight on the back still ice skates under power

B5M lite or regular?

What weight is the car?

What setup? ( I mean FULL setup sheet)

What shock O rings?

What shock length?

What front trail?

What motor/esc/battery?

What type of surface?

What chassis?

What tire and insert are you using?

Are your turn buckles binding?

Which C and D mount are you using?
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B5M lite or regular?

What weight is the car?

What setup? ( I mean FULL setup sheet)

What shock O rings?

What shock length?

What front trail?

What motor/esc/battery?

What type of surface?

What chassis?

What tire and insert are you using?

Are your turn buckles binding?

Which C and D mount are you using?
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Hey would someone be able to take a picture of the rear arms for the b5m lite installed I think I received the incorrect arms with my kit and just wanted to double check before I get some more. The markings for Left and Right are reversed on the arms I received and it also look like it is giving me a ton of toe in.
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