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Old 03-30-2015, 05:00 PM   #12751
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When using the AE aluminum rear hubs, what's the trick positioning or tool for snapping the outer camber link ball cup onto the ball stud?

It was very difficult with needle nose pliers...
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When using the AE aluminum rear hubs, what's the trick positioning or tool for snapping the outer camber link ball cup onto the ball stud?

It was very difficult with needle nose pliers...
Use the built tools on you hand...fingers. Just snap it on.
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Old 03-30-2015, 05:25 PM   #12753
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Take a 5.5mm driver and put it on the ball cup. Then push.
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sockets idea is better and the way I actually do mine
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Old 03-30-2015, 05:41 PM   #12755
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I use my "Man" hands. lol
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I use a plumbing pliers. Open it to whatever's convenient to grab. Lots of control over it and very neat.
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When using the AE aluminum rear hubs, what's the trick positioning or tool for snapping the outer camber link ball cup onto the ball stud?

It was very difficult with needle nose pliers...
Just use your hands.
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That doesn't lower the roll center 2.5mm.
technically, since it's the only way you can actually measure the roll center, he is correct.
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Man hands hey? ...

Thanks for the nut driver idea Socket, I'll give that a shot next time.
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I use a plumbing pliers. Open it to whatever's convenient to grab. Lots of control over it and very neat.
+1 I use channel locks or sometimes a big C clamp. Anything that can give you pressure on it straight down vs. at an angle like needle-nose
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Thanks guys, good tips.
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technically, since it's the only way you can actually measure the roll center, he is correct.
Moving your ballstud up and down doesn't measure the rollcenter any more than putting more paint on your body measures your center of gravity. Sure it can be lowered or raised, but measuring the point along the center-line of the chassis is something else entirely.

Nevermind.. don't have the energy.
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When using the AE aluminum rear hubs, what's the trick positioning or tool for snapping the outer camber link ball cup onto the ball stud?

It was very difficult with needle nose pliers...
I put the ball stud in the ball cup before I thread it on to the buggy. place the ball stud horizontal(or sideways so have you) to the ball cup then use pliers to press it in. Should easily pop in that way.
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How in the world are you making changes where you can measure how high or low you are setting your roll center? How do you lower your roll center exactly 2.5mm?
I would imagine he means he added 2.5mm of washers under the inner camber link in the rear which would effectively lower the roll centre. But that would not be a 2.5mm difference in roll centre. That is a completley differemt measurement.

It seems to be just a miscommunicated point he made.
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Old 03-30-2015, 10:48 PM   #12765
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I think most people understood what he meant. Just another pissing match over technicalities.
I didn't understand what he meant and I think I have a pretty good understanding of what roll center is and how to change it. It certainly isn't all done by raising or lowering camber link mounts.

Increasing ride height also lowers roll center. Changing pills in your pin braces so the arms attach to the chassis higher or lower will change your roll center as well.

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