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Old 03-16-2015, 11:57 PM   #12421
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Old 03-17-2015, 06:06 AM   #12422
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I remove the shim and then use tlr wing washers on top and then it fits perfect. A lot of people also cut the nubs off and use exotek or jc aluminum screw type wing buttons.
Thanks! I'll get some of those TLR washers on order. For the other type, are you saying that people cut off the nubs and drill/tap the wing mounts?
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Thanks! I'll get some of those TLR washers on order. For the other type, are you saying that people cut off the nubs and drill/tap the wing mounts?
I cut my nubs off and use a 4mm screw with the stock spacer. Only complaint is that I seem to break wings faster so I'm going to try using old shock o-rings to give the wing a little wiggle room.
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Old 03-17-2015, 06:46 AM   #12424
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How would a different "sub-forum".. for a single car.. be any different than a single thread for a single car? You would have just as many posts to go through, and even more threads to search through for what you were looking for. Everything you need to know here is on page #1. Most new relevant stuff.. just the last 20 pages or so. You don't need to read every post to learn all you need to know about this car.
You have so many different conversations going on. You have to read through several pages and tons of posts that don't pertain to what one may be looking for. With a sub-forum the threads could stay on topic and you would only have to look at the ones that interested you. It would be a much easier way to sort through all the info, and an easier way to keep up on what was important to you. When asking a question 850 pages in it gets buried by the other ongoing posts after it.

I thik it would greatly improve this forum. All of this IMO of course.
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You have so many different conversations going on. You have to read through several pages and tons of posts that don't pertain to what one may be looking for. With a sub-forum the threads could stay on topic and you would only have to look at the ones that interested you. It would be a much easier way to sort through all the info, and an easier way to keep up on what was important to you. When asking a question 850 pages in it gets buried by the other ongoing posts after it.

I thik it would greatly improve this forum. All of this IMO of course.
If someone just bought a B5m today, I could see the 850 pages in this thread looking like a huge wall with information behind it. RCBuddha does a pretty good job of keeping page 1 updated with the usual information folks are looking for. This discussion does raise an idea though. Maybe we could add a "current trends" section to page 1? Something like that might be a pain to maintain though. Anyway, I don't see an easy solution here, but I think as long as RCBuddha keeps doing a good job like he is, we are good.
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So... There has been a lot of talk of fast stock motors for the B5M. The new trinity short stacks, Wurkz and so on. A reedy motor won the Cactus Classic in Stock, and it looks like she had all the power she needed to run people down and pass them. Discuss.


I am sure some motors are "faster" in the straight. But races are often won in the infield. I turned my fastest laps at Cactus with a SkyRC Ares toro 17.5 that I was testing. It was super smooth and had good speed on the straight, but it lacked emergency "grunt". If I hit my lines correctly, that was not an issue, and let me turn many low 21's. The reedy had more grunt, and let me hop over the short run up doubles if I messed up or had to scrub speed due to traffic.
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can anyone post pics of a phantom and or silencer body with 3 gear trans ?
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If someone just bought a B5m today, I could see the 850 pages in this thread looking like a huge wall with information behind it. RCBuddha does a pretty good job of keeping page 1 updated with the usual information folks are looking for. This discussion does raise an idea though. Maybe we could add a "current trends" section to page 1? Something like that might be a pain to maintain though. Anyway, I don't see an easy solution here, but I think as long as RCBuddha keeps doing a good job like he is, we are good.
A sub forum wouldn't need to be maintained in the way you are referring to. It could have stickies for the main info. I'm not saying that we should have a rc10bm specific sub forum, but I have seen other forums do a brand specific or class specific sub forums. I really think class specific would be best. For example all under electric off-road: 1/10 2wd buggy, sct, 4wd buggy 1/8 buggy, etc. A lot of questions concerning gear to be ran in a rc10b5m really could be answered by people who run other brand platforms as well. It could broaden the knowledge base, yet allow for more specific topics, instead of grouping any question related to the b5m to a single giant post. I don't see the harm in extra threads, it makes it easier to find what you want. This thread has more turned into a hangout which is completely fine, but we need to have other more specific threads. Oh, and it's not just this thread its all the mega threads. Anyway, I don't know the perfect way, but I think things can be improved.
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So... There has been a lot of talk of fast stock motors for the B5M. The new trinity short stacks, Wurkz and so on. A reedy motor won the Cactus Classic in Stock, and it looks like she had all the power she needed to run people down and pass them. Discuss.


I am sure some motors are "faster" in the straight. But races are often won in the infield. I turned my fastest laps at Cactus with a SkyRC Ares toro 17.5 that I was testing. It was super smooth and had good speed on the straight, but it lacked emergency "grunt". If I hit my lines correctly, that was not an issue, and let me turn many low 21's. The reedy had more grunt, and let me hop over the short run up doubles if I messed up or had to scrub speed due to traffic.


She also stopped jumping the triple 3-4 minutes in, while other cars were clearing it at the 7 minute mark.

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1. The forums aren't changing.
2. The mods aren't the ones that make those decisions anyway.
3. Jerzi, I don't want to hear about your carbon chassis any more. You have been warned by just about every moderator on the site for MONTHS. It's great you can work carbon fiber, but we don't need a hundreds posts about the same thing. We all know why you're doing it
4. Having said that, be polite to the guy. If you see something you think breaks the rules, report the post and/or use the ignore feature
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B5m discussions continue! I won my club race this weekend with my B5m. Had the toughest of 3 heats of buggy to qualify in, kind-of limiting the times I could put down, which put me 3rd on the grid, but ended up with a flawless zero-mistake run in the main to take the win. Car setup feels flawless to me. I have the car taking great corner speed, with no push and no over-steer. I love neutral handing cars, and my car is REALLY starting to work for me. The car is just getting better and better.
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Old 03-17-2015, 09:25 AM   #12431
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I also club raced last weekend, but was even further from winning than ever before. I struggled with on-power steering on high-bite carpet, but as the car was almost box stock (first run ever, no brass, no 3-gear transmission or Redworkshop low-rider conversion yet...), it did not come as a surprise. As a dedicated MM car it is designed to generate as much rear traction as possible, and I am looking forward to racing it on dirt.

For the next time on carpet, I ordered a brass front bulkhead, and yesterday my Redworkshop low-rider conversion arrived, which transforms the B5M into a cousin of the Yokomo YZ-2. Unfortunately I'll probably not be able to test it before mid April, but installation was fun already!
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She also stopped jumping the triple 3-4 minutes in, while other cars were clearing it at the 7 minute mark.

Drivers win races, fast cars win drag races.
yeah, I think that might have been a safety thing. I noticed that a lot of the drivers stopped doing the triple in the mains. Maybe because traction dropped off, maybe they just didnt want to risk it. She did go for it later in the race to try a pass. So she had the motor, but elected to not try it all the time. I am sure she had a hand picked stator and rotor. Team WWHD has all the tools to check stators and motors and pick the best ones. Then properly shim the motors, ceramic bearings and all the good stuff. I am sure it was not an off the shelf non tuned motor.
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I also club raced last weekend, but was even further from winning than ever before. I struggled with on-power steering on high-bite carpet, but as the car was almost box stock (first run ever, no brass, no 3-gear transmission or Redworkshop low-rider conversion yet...), it did not come as a surprise. As a dedicated MM car it is designed to generate as much rear traction as possible, and I am looking forward to racing it on dirt.

For the next time on carpet, I ordered a brass front bulkhead, and yesterday my Redworkshop low-rider conversion arrived, which transforms the B5M into a cousin of the Yokomo YZ-2. Unfortunately I'll probably not be able to test it before mid April, but installation was fun already!
3-gear sounds like it would be a GREAT place to go for you on your track. 3-gear will do a lot for on-power steering. But it looks like you are already using one of those ultra-flat gearboxes that pushes the motor really far forward. Are you sure you aren't over-loading the front tires? Are you using the right tires? I can't imagine a buggy laid out like that could have a lack-of-steering issue.
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1. The forums aren't changing.
2. The mods aren't the ones that make those decisions anyway.
3. Jerzi, I don't want to hear about your carbon chassis any more. You have been warned by just about every moderator on the site for MONTHS. It's great you can work carbon fiber, but we don't need a hundreds posts about the same thing. We all know why you're doing it
4. Having said that, be polite to the guy. If you see something you think breaks the rules, report the post and/or use the ignore feature
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B5m discussions continue! I won my club race this weekend with my B5m. Had the toughest of 3 heats of buggy to qualify in, kind-of limiting the times I could put down, which put me 3rd on the grid, but ended up with a flawless zero-mistake run in the main to take the win. Car setup feels flawless to me. I have the car taking great corner speed, with no push and no over-steer. I love neutral handing cars, and my car is REALLY starting to work for me. The car is just getting better and better.
Really need to get my B5 to handle like yours. I'm going to come down this Sunday and work on the setup and gearing some more. Tired of my brother talking up how great his 22 is, even though it is pretty damn good.
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There are quite a few of us running the B5M there and 5 of us were standing around talking about the buggy. At least 4 of us are members here on RC Tech. I don't remember the subject all that well but I suggested checking out this thread for an answer or advice.

Two different guys in that small group told me they do not participate in this thread in any way because of the general attitude in here. I'm phrasing that in a much nicer way than they did, by the way.

It's pretty noticeable in here at times compared to other threads I follow from less widespread brands. And I really doubt some of you would dare speak to people at your tracks the way you do in this thread.

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I can't say I disagree with you. I will be keeping a closer eye here. We want people here to contribute.
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