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Old 02-26-2015, 10:08 AM   #11986
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the old tires and wheels worked fine, the old saying no need to reinvent the wheel. I prefer the old style.
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Old 02-26-2015, 10:15 AM   #11987
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Thanks, that's good info.



Thank you.

So are you guys saying do, or do not, glue the inserts?
GLUE THEM! Problem solved.
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Old 02-26-2015, 10:17 AM   #11988
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OK on a med to high bite track I was going to go with an inline setup but keep the battery across the width of the chassis. Would it be better to run ESC against the servo or the receiver? Or would it be a more of a benefit to run the battery straight all the way forward with the ESC and receiver against the waterfall?
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Old 02-26-2015, 10:25 AM   #11989
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GLUE THEM! Problem solved.
do you have a good technique for this?
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Old 02-26-2015, 10:48 AM   #11990
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GLUE THEM! Problem solved.
Gluing did not solve the prob for me. It may have made it worse. Maybe because they were hard parts, maybe because i glued them wrong, i dont know. I almost think the slight movement of the insert in the hub may protect the bearing a bit, but that is a total guess.

I will not be gluing again from my experience.

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Just to counter the failures, gluing both regular and hard inserts has reduced how quickly my bearings go bad, I used to replace one a race day, now approx every 4. I used a little glue around the edge and didn't put the axle in, just tried to seat the inserts straight.
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Anyone have suggestions on my B5m with traction rolling. My local track has a high speed chicane. I am running handlebar fronts with dirt tech inserts and chainlink rears with aka red inserts. It seems when i enter the chicane the front tires sidewall is flexing and im hitting the rim. Any suggestions on keeping this from happening. and different foams I can run?
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Old 02-26-2015, 11:34 AM   #11993
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From my testing, I'll agree. Another AE teammate that I race with runs for PL and he had the same tearing issues and overall less grip. When I ran the JC stuff, (which was limited because it had noticeably less grip) I didn't like them at all. Our track is medium bite and not very smooth at all.

The forward grip was good, zero side bite!
Thanks for the replies on the 2.4" stuff I posted guys, this is good and helfpul info. I am not sure if you are talking about Nick above, but he echo'd your comments, I will stick with 2.2". I have been running Dirtwebs, but am kind of excited to try Electrons. Up here (TRCR), J-Concepts and AKA still kind of run the roost, it should be fun to see how the Electrons do.

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Gluing did not solve the prob for me. It may have made it worse. Maybe because they were hard parts, maybe because i glued them wrong, i dont know. I almost think the slight movement of the insert in the hub may protect the bearing a bit, but that is a total guess.

I will not be gluing again from my experience.

I use Avid bearings, just to clarify.

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After glueing I've been in the same bearings for months. I put in the FT bearing kit for nationals and haven't taken them out.

When you glue you must have the bearings in the inserts and have the axle ready to put in there to align it all properly. I've only done it once and I put just a few tiny dots of CA around the steering knuckle. Since there is movement, if you don't have the bearings and axle in there quickly there's a good chance it will not be aligned properly.
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Anyone have suggestions on my B5m with traction rolling. My local track has a high speed chicane. I am running handlebar fronts with dirt tech inserts and chainlink rears with aka red inserts. It seems when i enter the chicane the front tires sidewall is flexing and im hitting the rim. Any suggestions on keeping this from happening. and different foams I can run?
That sounds a little extreme... Especially since the dirt tech inserts are some of the best. To verify if that is actually the case (rim hitting dirt) find someone with an iPhone 6 to take some slo-mo video of the car in that corner to verify your hypothesis.
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That sounds a little extreme... Especially since the dirt tech inserts are some of the best. To verify if that is actually the case (rim hitting dirt) find someone with an iPhone 6 to take some slo-mo video of the car in that corner to verify your hypothesis.
I hear what you are saying.. I will use a gopro to verify but with the amount of clay stuck to the outside of the rim after rolling I think it is a fair assessment
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Are you selling all of your 2.4's and not planning on running them for mod? I am still beating this one up deciding on which tire / wheel I want to go with in my new buggy. From what I can tell, there was a few folks griping about the glue coming up, which to me sounds more like a glue / operator problem. If 2.4" is better overall (for mod) and is likely the direction all will be headed after ROAR approves them, why not jump on the bandwagon now? I am obviously not racing in any ROAR events, I just want to get the best and not yesterday's news.

I can see I am going to have to re-learn how to glue tires (the right and clean way). All of my 1/8 scale stuff has been pre-mounts.

Thanks for your help!
. I really would like to try a couple things I was told to try with them before I write them off altogether.

A couple things are definites: they're lighter than 2.2's, and they can give more over all grip.
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Thanks for the replies on the 2.4" stuff I posted guys, this is good and helfpul info. I am not sure if you are talking about Nick above, but he echo'd your comments, I will stick with 2.2". I have been running Dirtwebs, but am kind of excited to try Electrons. Up here (TRCR), J-Concepts and AKA still kind of run the roost, it should be fun to see how the Electrons do.

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surprising to hear people need to glue their inserts to save their front bearings. I have only changed a right rear bearing on my B5-rear last winter. On my B5M I assume the bearings were changed cause the previous owner usually upgrades stuff. I have only had the mid motor car for a month. both cars are only used in mod and neither have the inserts glued.
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All my 2.4/VTR's stay home in a box, half ran and coming unglued after trying everything in the book. Tried them all. No thanks!
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