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Old 01-29-2015, 11:10 AM   #10966
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they have the price as $279 on the website. Sorry but this kinda blows up everyone else's car pricing. Decked out light weight car for under $300. Plus all of the parts support.....
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they have the price as $279 on the website. Sorry but this kinda blows up everyone else's car pricing. Decked out light weight car for under $300. Plus all of the parts support.....
nope nope nope...many will be dumping their $400 rides for $150 so they can buy the same exact thing they had for $280...from AE

While it sucks that now we can buy it all in one box, most of us have this car already. We just had to pay more to get it..IMO

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You guys talking about internal resistance of batteries should really take note that charging your batteries all the way full is the best way to increase internal resistance of the batteries during normal use. If you use the "FAST charge" or similar early cutoff systems that cut you off at around 4.16, you're battery will last a heck of a lot longer. Everyone's charger is slightly different, and none are perfect. The "x battery brand" internal resistance results are probably pretty skewed by people's charging practices and chargers.

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You guys talking about internal resistance of batteries should really take note that charging your batteries all the way full is the best way to increase internal resistance of the batteries during normal use. If you use the "FAST charge" or similar early cutoff systems that cut you off at around 4.16, you're battery will last a heck of a lot longer. Everyone's charger is slightly different, and none are perfect. The "x battery brand" internal resistance results are probably pretty skewed by people's charging practices and chargers.

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locally they charge the packs so they get to about 120 deg. This greatly lowers the IR and can be seriously felt on the track. but it also greatly shortens the life span of you packs. One local claims he did that for 6 months with his trinity pack with little to no increase in IR of the pack. I dont do it, because I pit with my daughter and I dont want to increase the risk of a pit fire.
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I kinda wish they offered a new waterfall with a fan mount....oh well.


I just noticed that the car has the plastic rack. lol. Also, they put a locknut on the rear hub's ballstud. See they did learn from their mistakes.
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:32 AM   #10973
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Cpt.A pulled it from his TC, so I'm sure it was thrashed hard before he sent it to me j/k. It honestly wasn't far off from the newer short stack based motors.
You're welcome.. and I'm sure it was the driver Oh, and that motor has the least amount of run time of any of my motors. Maybe 20 packs through it.

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On a side note. I'm glad I'm not stock racing very much, locally or otherwise. Because I found out first hand that the whole battery "juicing" game is no joke, legal or not it makes a difference.
The battery game is FAR FAR FAR more important than the motor game at the moment in spec racing. I can see 10%-15% increase in performance when I am running my batteries the special secret sauce way.... motor of the month? 1-2%.
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........I don't know anyone who cycles at a 20a discharge and charges at 40+ amps that worries about "battery life".

And that doesn't touch on the "other stuff" an Icharger can do to gain performance.

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New Kit announced, 90000 RC10B5M Factory Lite includes 3 Gear.
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"Lightweight aluminum front axle/hex adapter and larger front wheel bearing for added durability"

Did they change the bearings? new inserts and/or spindles?
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You're welcome.. and I'm sure it was the driver Oh, and that motor has the least amount of run time of any of my motors. Maybe 20 packs through it.


The battery game is FAR FAR FAR more important than the motor game at the moment in spec racing. I can see 10%-15% increase in performance when I am running my batteries the special secret sauce way.... motor of the month? 1-2%.
So what is the "secret sauce way" to charge batteries for stock?
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You're welcome.. and I'm sure it was the driver Oh, and that motor has the least amount of run time of any of my motors. Maybe 20 packs through it.


The battery game is FAR FAR FAR more important than the motor game at the moment in spec racing. I can see 10%-15% increase in performance when I am running my batteries the special secret sauce way.... motor of the month? 1-2%.
I went from my normal charge methods to having my buddy, I won't say what exactly, but "juice" my pack for the last qual and main. I went from clearing the triple for the first 2, maybe 3 minutes of a run to the full 6 minutes in the main. That's only on 2 cycles of that discharge/charge type. Performance only goes up from there, for a short period of time as it shortens the packs life.

Temp of the pack while cycling... Let's just say it wasn't close to ambient temp.


I like stock class racing but the lengths needed to go to at the upper level are ridiculous.
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Ya I mean I had SMC 4600's before and the Reedys dont feel that much different but idk anyways so the Orions are no good huh? Also while I really want the Trinity Revtech 100c batterys I refuse to pay that much and they're 5mm bullets thats just too big of a pain to switch from 4mm to 5mm especially when i have 4mm packs I would like to use for practice. So what would be the closest battery to the Trinity with 4mm bullets and a decent price?
I forget who makes them,but a 4-5mm step bullet is made so that you can use either size battery with this one end.
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