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Old 05-30-2014, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by blingy
what are some of the things I can do to keep the rear flatter during cornering , like maybe a longer rear link or??
You must have great traction.

Been running my rear chassis camber stud in the outer position.
Car will roll a little less in the apex.
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by blingy
what are some of the things I can do to keep the rear flatter during cornering , like maybe a longer rear link or??
post your setup and track conditions. We can all sit here and bounce ideas at you and some might stick, some might not. It all depends on your conditions and we can give you better advice knowing this.
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Has anyone else raced the rear motor in 17.5, bought a mid, and not liked it in 17.5 as much? I have only 2 races on my mid motor so far and love the way it drives, it is just slow and less punchy. I am more familiar with the rear motor as I have way more races on it, and I am not giving up on the mid yet but part of me just wants to run mod with the mid, rear in 17.5
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BRSracing
If you are having that many issues with batteries it is likely a user issue not a battery issue. All of the batteries I listed I have used with no issue, not stuff I "see".
I have the proteks. The trinity packs were a guy a pit with. And not every protek puffed, lol. I have a 2+ year old Amain ECO pack that is flat as a board. Danny from Amain explained the issues as being case size. Some of these new packs like the 4800mah shorties, have a lot of battery in the case and any swelling at all will puff the case. On my lower mah packs like the 4000mah, I never saw any puffing. So either batteries have gotten worse or like Danny said, puffing is going to increase as we stuff more and more mah into the same sized cases. I have mainly seen the and experienced the issues with packs over 4200 mah. Also, I live in Az and raced outdoors. Some days its over 110 degrees out, with little to no shade.
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by blingy
what are some of the things I can do to keep the rear flatter during cornering , like maybe a longer rear link or??
I see many guys running linger links on both B5's. I have always ran the stand links and recently went to longer links and really liked it. I have also found that lowering the entire rear link makes the rear drive flatter.
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:21 AM
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The battery thing is so funny. Subjective isn't the right word but maybe random? I have 3 SMC 4600 shortys and those are notorious for puffing. None of mine have ever so much as even slightly puffed, even under extreme use.
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pittsdriver
Has anyone else raced the rear motor in 17.5, bought a mid, and not liked it in 17.5 as much? I have only 2 races on my mid motor so far and love the way it drives, it is just slow and less punchy. I am more familiar with the rear motor as I have way more races on it, and I am not giving up on the mid yet but part of me just wants to run mod with the mid, rear in 17.5
A couple locals are doing that. Converting the mid to mod and running a second class. Kinwald is doing some local testing with Rm vs MM B5. I am hoping, that once he is done I can pick his brain. He told me that when he ran X-Factory, he always ran fans on everything, even in mod. BTW, if you ever ever get a chance to look at one of his cars up close, you will get some wood. lol. He does soooooooo many little customs things. I held his worlds centro from last year in my hand and looked it over. Its was a freaking piece of art work, lol. Anyway, he said he plans to run fans to keep the 17.5 temps down. Also, I know this sounds lame.....but if your car seems slow, find an orion r10 pro with SS firmware and try it out. I am not one to really get all wet over an esc, but I about pissed my pants when I put one in my car. I freaking swear to all that is good, that esc is a cheater esc. Something is just not right about how much power it puts out.
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I just ordered a fan and plan on trying it. I put my R1 Wurks motor in the mid which is known to be a hot motor, but it likes timing, and taking the timing out really slowed the feel of the car down compared to the rear motor car. My mid is about 31kg heavier too which doesn't sound like a lot but I can feel it in the way it drives. I didn't think the mid would have the cooling issues like it does. Putting some holes in the body, and having the rear of the motor exposed (kit body) would seem like enough.
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Originally Posted by Pittsdriver
The battery thing is so funny. Subjective isn't the right word but maybe random? I have 3 SMC 4600 shortys and those are notorious for puffing. None of mine have ever so much as even slightly puffed, even under extreme use.
A LOT of it is how you store it. But, I was getting ready to order some of those, and a friend of mine on here, who I know takes pristine car of his stuff, said his packs arrived at his door puffed. This was in the spring, so not hot out. If you wanna talk about cheap cases, try the turnigy, lol. I tried to use aliigator clips as charge leads, because i have a mix of 4mm, 5mm and so one, and the clips cut through the case all the way to the terminal. Turnigy may have the cheapest cases on the market. SMC, protek, reedy and a few others appear to use the same cases. Venom is the only one with a really stout case. that thing is hard and thick....
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Pittsdriver
I just ordered a fan and plan on trying it. I put my R1 Wurks motor in the mid which is known to be a hot motor, but it likes timing, and taking the timing out really slowed the feel of the car down compared to the rear motor car. My mid is about 31kg heavier too which doesn't sound like a lot but I can feel it in the way it drives. I didn't think the mid would have the cooling issues like it does. Putting some holes in the body, and having the rear of the motor exposed (kit body) would seem like enough.
31KG.....crap, is your kid riding on top of it

My big long post was eaten by rctech. Lighten the car up some, possibly cut a 1x1 inch hole in front of the motor to let air in and maybe get some cut gears. The alum topshaft, avid triad, pucks and cut gears, go a long way into giving you more power. I hate spending tons on the stock class, but my current track is very competitive, and unless you like the D main, you spend the cash or join mod. FYI, we had 39 entries for 17.5 last Wednesday night....Middle of the freaking week, lol.
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubonic-X
Schelle just came out with same thing but wish they were blue. For some track bling!
Schelles look ok. I like their bushing better, because it has that lip. But the base of the AVID looks beter to me and does not require a special wrench. The AVID is 5.5mm driver. And the AVID has the sexy silver rings machined in. I am kinda wondering if the Schelle fanged bushing will fit on the avid
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
I hate spending tons on the stock class, but my current track is very competitive, and unless you like the D main, you spend the cash or join mod. FYI, we had 39 entries for 17.5 last Wednesday night....Middle of the freaking week, lol.

good problems to have
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Old 05-30-2014, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mason
good problems to have
Yeah, I recently came from a track that had like 3-5 entries in 17.5. Sometimes it would be just me and another guy. On the upside, I am a much better indoor driver, lol. I guess I am a traction hero
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Old 05-30-2014, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by aeRayls
I don't see it as a crush tube issue at all. My front bearings are smooth as can be in your hand but feel blown out and gritty when all assembled. Still feel crappy when you take the hex off and there's no load from the wheel nut. I still run em that way, the same ones hat came in my kit. It REALLY bothers me but doesn't bother my results lol...

Both of the other AE drivers in my area have the same issue. One isn't nearly as bad as mine. The one thing that tells me that it isn't a crush tube issue is that they feel gritty when there's no wheel installed or hex on there. I've seen a couple guys change to the 3* trailing inserts and it went away or it severely lessened.

That tells me it's in the plastic steering arm or the plastic inserts themselves.
ADAM i noticed the same thing i swapped inserts around until it felt good with stock steering blocks, with my hard blocks i can get a smooth match or even decent at best, take same bearings and install back into stock soft steering blocks and they are by far smoother than in hard blocks definetly not a bearing or sleeve issue, when a sticky bearing is enough to keep me from beating you i will worry about it until then i can use it for another excuse why i didnt do good lmao.........
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Old 05-30-2014, 08:20 AM
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Kinda funny how some feel the crush tube for the axles are not problem with crunchy bearings .
Ae themselves already address the problem by improving the crush tubes.
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