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Old 01-09-2015, 02:14 PM   #10351
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since bushings are cheaper than buying new caps, which bushings fit these older style caps? these:
http://www.amain.com/team-associated...g-blue-4/p7969

or I also have the schelle standoffs which I took off because the shock caps I got didnt fit and thats why i bought the AE standoffs, so I guess i could replace the b5m bushings with the old schelle b4 bushings:
http://www.amain.com/schelle-racing-...hing-4/p300382
Im not positive if the b4 schelle bushins will fit on the b5 style standoffs. But the AE bushings will work, remember that they are 4-40 thread though.
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Honestly, if you want to measure spring rate to compare and identify springs, all you need is a digital scale, a digital caliper with depth gauge, and a spring retainer. It takes a little practice to get it down, but once you do, it will seem silly how easy and obvious it is.

Stand a spring up on a digital scale with the spring retainer cup on the top. Slide the caliper depth gauge through the retainer and down to the scale surface. This allows you to measure the length of the spring and retainer cup. Now set your digital caliper for 1" shorter than that previous measure, and lock the digital caliper with the locking screw. Tare the scale out with the spring and retainer still on it and then stick the now 1" shorter depth gauge through the retainer and spring again, compressing the spring until the depth gauge hits the scale. You will see the numbers slowly creep up as you get closer to the surface of the scale, and then when you touch it, they will rocket up as you apply direct force with the digital caliper depth gauge instead of the spring. The number right before you touch the scale with the depth gauge is your spring force at 1", and that gives you the spring rate, which is generally measured in lb/in, so set your scale to lb/oz unless you want to do math, or have google do math

This will ultimately irritate you when you find out how far off AE's cheap springs are from their advertised rates. I'm not saying they're bad, or they're not consistent, but when they say they're 3.00 lb/in, they're not... they're more like 3.05 lb/in.

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Old 01-09-2015, 05:07 PM   #10353
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Can anyone confirm if the hard steering blocks and inserts cure the slop problem - or is glue required with those also? I just picked up a hard steering/insert set today and don't want to glue them unless I have to.
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Can anyone confirm if the hard steering blocks and inserts cure the slop problem - or is glue required with those also? I just picked up a hard steering/insert set today and don't want to glue them unless I have to.
Glue still
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Ok, thanks for the heads up. I didn't glue the ones on my B5 initially and then had to take them apart and glue them. I cant help but think they could revise that part so glue wasn't necessary. No biggie.
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Can anyone confirm if the hard steering blocks and inserts cure the slop problem - or is glue required with those also? I just picked up a hard steering/insert set today and don't want to glue them unless I have to.
Use the set screws
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Ok, thanks for the heads up. I didn't glue the ones on my B5 initially and then had to take them apart and glue them. I cant help but think they could revise that part so glue wasn't necessary. No biggie.
I would prefer one piece spindles. The inserts were a good try at innovation, but one piece would have been fine.
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Ok, thanks for the heads up. I didn't glue the ones on my B5 initially and then had to take them apart and glue them. I cant help but think they could revise that part so glue wasn't necessary. No biggie.
What are you guys gluing? The inserts to the spindles?
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What are you guys gluing? The inserts to the spindles?
Correct. Gluing the 0/5 inserts into the caster block. Takes away some of the play that can develop over time.
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This will ultimately irritate you when you find out how far off AE's cheap springs are from their advertised rates. I'm not saying they're bad, or they're not consistent, but when they say they're 3.00 lb/in, they're not... they're more like 3.05 lb/in.
Well no WONDER I haven't won the super nats yet... this WHOLE time I have my car set up for 3.00 pound springs like the package says!












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What are you guys gluing? The inserts to the spindles?
I glued my trailing axle inserts into the steering blocks on my B5. Has been good ever since. I just don't like using glue - it's really not a huge deal, just would prefer to not have to if possible. I just finished gluing the inserts for my B5M. I haven't tried gluing the inserts in the caster blocks, I have been using the optional set screws.
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It really ticked me off on this build that on the "Racer's Tips" Like putting in those set screws that they are NOT included in the kit!
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I used some goop on all inserts as well as set screws. About as good as its going to get for interchangeable pieces.
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It really ticked me off on this build that on the "Racer's Tips" Like putting in those set screws that they are NOT included in the kit!
I would rather they not put 8, 12, or 16mm heavy set screws in there when I can get by with a 3mm
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It really ticked me off on this build that on the "Racer's Tips" Like putting in those set screws that they are NOT included in the kit!
That's because most "racers" already have all that kinda stuff perhaps?
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