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Old 01-06-2015, 10:48 AM   #10246
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Hey WILDCAT, do you go through many of the slipper pads on the avid setup? I know u usually run 17.5 but just curious. I'm on my second set of schelle pads in 3 months. I run mod and my lt is pretty high grip.
No I dont. And I am 99.99% sure the pads are exactly same. I could be wrong, but I am piecing together info from several people that lead me to believe this.
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:49 AM   #10247
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have you tried 2x1.6s or 3x1.4s in the rear rather than the 1.7s and 3x1.4s in the front?
1.6's are okay but rear tends to skid out with some of the bumps and tends to bounce on landing some of the jumps. too much pack. I only have 3x 1.4 tapered and haven't tried them in the back yet. i will probably do this thursday and definitely before I start lightening the car.

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So I know this is prob a stupid question bc you've prob done it but have you tried a diff combo of tires front and rear? I've found that I like the chainlinks the best out of the Electron and dirt webs bc they have JUST ENOUGH side bite to where my car is free enough to drift around corners, hang on, and still have TONS of steering even with a tire like the Transistor which is very smooth and not aggressive.

So if you haven't already try the chainlink with like a pinstripe, bar code, or transistor front
We run natural rubber (ie clay compound) slicks 99.99% of the time. It is a clay based track with some crappier stuff mixed in and sealer on it to help hold it together. Here's a mod a-main i recorded one evening to give you an idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aU-fknS7Uk

Towards the end of the track layout cycle it will start dusting up and there's been only 1 or 2 club races i've considered running a ghosted pin. Sometimes getting the equipment and labor in the same place at the same time to do a track change can be a challenge and this is when the track would fall apart. We let it dry out as its much easier to break up a drier track than a wet sticky one. I pine for the days of good old kitty litter only and water. The joke was you could take any that stuck to your shock towers/car and form it into an ash tray. Kinda like silly putty. I believe the new SRS clay is somewhat similar from some of the pictures I have seen.

Addressing different compounds - Front to rear i would consider running a synthetic front tire for driver in the early stages of development or if i was trying to dial out steering as it calms the steering down at my facility. I did this with the girlfriends car for awhile. Now that she's getting better I've put the front end on clay compounds. Now she just needs to stay on the throttle more lol.
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:59 AM   #10248
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According to Kody, the 3 gear will be out this month.

"Kody Numedahl This month... Sorry molded parts take a long time. We also wanted the gear mesh to be perfect which took a few tweaks."
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According to Kody, the 3 gear will be out this month.

"Kody Numedahl This month... Sorry molded parts take a long time. We also wanted the gear mesh to be perfect which took a few tweaks."
Yep, I talked to Don at AE, he said they have a negative 1100 inventory of the 3 gear transmission parts with an expected release of a few weeks.

MIP didn't answer their phone.
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Yep, I talked to Don at AE, he said they have a negative 1100 inventory of the 3 gear transmission parts with an expected release of a few weeks.

MIP didn't answer their phone.
WTF, negative 1100. hahaha. So what your saying is they will be like gold on release.
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According to his setup sheet he runs on the same type of track I do medium to high bite and I run the exact same setup I just gave him (with the Flat arms which I forgot he was running the gulls) and white front spring and I NEVER struggle for steering I have more than enough. Cav even ran the same rear end setup at Spektrum where the grip was very high.
his track is no where near medium to high bite. It's perception because that's all we know here in the North East (no offense Wonton). What we call high bite here is more like medium everywhere else.

This winter we recently got a few tracks that are legit high bite tracks. Graham runs at one and he can offer comparisons (Railyard).

WonTon, I would try Mike Gay's setup from RCE on your car. It was tailored to our region and everyone who tries it loves it. I'm not as active on here any more because of everything else going on, but feel free to PM me if you have questions.
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Fair enough. I just want to find out the in and outs of this lil buggy of ours.
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Fair enough. I just want to find out the in and outs of this lil buggy of ours.
Yes Bob is correct about our tracks. What track are you on running on WonTon? I think Mike Gays setup is a great starting point for anyone running in our area at the more popular tracks.
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Fair enough. I just want to find out the in and outs of this lil buggy of ours.
no worries man. We all had to learn this. What we do here doesn't apply to 90% of the indoor tracks haha.

I'm going to make it down to Mimis soon. Probably try to get there later this month or early next month.
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Yes Bob is correct about our tracks. What track are you on running on WonTon? I think Mike Gays setup is a great starting point for anyone running in our area at the more popular tracks.
I tend to bounce between mcculloughs and the track. Soon to see bumps and jumps.

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no worries man. We all had to learn this. What we do here doesn't apply to 90% of the indoor tracks haha.

I'm going to make it down to Mimis soon. Probably try to get there later this month or early next month.
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No I dont. And I am 99.99% sure the pads are exactly same. I could be wrong, but I am piecing together info from several people that lead me to believe this.
Avid and Schelle slippers are the same exact system. Same spurs and pads.
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In looking at the setup sheets on Associated's site, there is a variance between 1 and 2 limiters in the shocks, yet the stroke/shaft length is almost always 20.5 front and 25.6mm rear in all the setups. If the stroke length is the same no matter if I have 1 or 2 limiters, then is there an advantage to having more or less limiters inside the shock?
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I put an extra limiter in the shock then unscrew the eyelet to set the stroke. Allows some adjustment without shock disassembly.
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In looking at the setup sheets on Associated's site, there is a variance between 1 and 2 limiters in the shocks, yet the stroke/shaft length is almost always 20.5 front and 25.6mm rear in all the setups. If the stroke length is the same no matter if I have 1 or 2 limiters, then is there an advantage to having more or less limiters inside the shock?
The only difference is adjustability and uptravel. With more limiters, the piston goes closer to the cap. Given that the spring retainer limits the shaft from going close to the cap, it's basically a non issue on our platform.
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yep, use your internal limiters to get you to the "middle" of your current tune range. For example, if you are playing back and forth with a certain amount of droop, and you are going back and forth between lets say 19mm and 21mm stroke, use your limiters to get you to 20...so you have 1mm up and down with just the eyelet.
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