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Old 01-02-2015, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dog Runner
For my rear shocks, I changed from 2x1.6 with green springs and 30wt oil to 3x1.4 with the same spring and oil. Immediately, the car was looser in the rear. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but what is the reason why this happens? I am curious and just not sure the physics of what's going on here.
Ya there's got to be something else going on bc when myself and a friend of mine went to the 3x1.4s both our cars gained quite a bit of rear traction. So much so that when I go to the CRCRC Midwest Champs next week I am going back to a 2x1.6 bc the 3x1.4s will be to much for this track.

I have no idea what it could be but did you make another change other than the pistons that could be culprit?
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I should have been more specific. Forward traction is still fine but side bite went down, especially in the sweepers, with the 3x1.4 in the rear shocks.
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Flat or Tapered. If Tapered which side is tapered?
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Originally Posted by Dog Runner
I should have been more specific. Forward traction is still fine but side bite went down, especially in the sweepers, with the 3x1.4 in the rear shocks.
Still that doesn't make sense bc the 3x1.4s are close to the 2x1.7s which means your rear end should be softer which means more side bite and traction.

You sure you didn't make a rear roll center change too? And are you sure it's not your tires? Did you run the same tires as before you made the change?
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If compression side is tapered it could potentially cause this. Other ideas are the shock isn't filled or bled improperly or inconsistently.
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If you are getting loose in a sweeper I would look a the diff. it may be too loose and when the car rolls diffing out.
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Everything was exactly the same on the car except for the change in the pistons. It's not like the car is bad with the rear being looser in corners. It's still good but I just wasn't expecting that to happen.
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Dog, please answer my questions in post 10101
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Originally Posted by RCBuddha
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They're just as expensive as Ti...and Aluminium is a horrible choice for that part of the car.
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Originally Posted by Mason
Dog, please answer my questions in post 10101
Thanks. I'm using the flat machined pistons all the way around. I do have 3X1.4 tapered as well, but have not tried them yet.
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Originally Posted by dbowen
Still that doesn't make sense bc the 3x1.4s are close to the 2x1.7s which means your rear end should be softer which means more side bite and traction.

You sure you didn't make a rear roll center change too? And are you sure it's not your tires? Did you run the same tires as before you made the change?
thats not necessarily true, if its a high bite track and the rear is too soft, its going to dump and lose side bite.
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Originally Posted by rc23
thats not necessarily true, if its a high bite track and the rear is too soft, its going to dump and lose side bite.
That is true to an extent like if the car was way to soft but even Cav ran 3x1.4s with a green rear spring on a high bite track... So idk I am at a loss for why that could be happening
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Originally Posted by dbowen
That is true to an extent like if the car was way to soft but even Cav ran 3x1.4s with a green rear spring on a high bite track... So idk I am at a loss for why that could be happening
which setup was that? are you sure he wasnt running outside on the arm?

I havn't seen anyone run that soft, but maybe i missed it
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Originally Posted by rc23
which setup was that? are you sure he wasnt running outside on the arm?

I havn't seen anyone run that soft, but maybe i missed it
Oh sorry it was Thiekle at OCRC and he did run outside on the arm:
http://www.teamassociated.com/pdf/ca...ty_Thielke.pdf

But Rivkin ran 3x1.4s with white spring inside on tower and arm at Top Gun :
http://www.teamassociated.com/pdf/ca...Gun_Rivkin.pdf

Either way I run them and while they are softer they're not ridiculously soft so it shouldn't be that his car is to soft and dumping over...
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