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Old 12-21-2014, 08:59 AM   #9901
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I was looking for information on what the difference in new firmware / upgrade was but it doesn't show anywhere. Feels really slow and times confirmed. Last night was ugly, thought I had a 21.5. Going to drop back and check times. New to Orion so playing with it. Any luck with mod firmware in B5m or better to stick with stock firmware for stock?
Don't run the stock firmware as it is meant for touring car, stick with the mod firmware that came pre-installed on the Speedo. I got a stock setup from Joe Pillars the Team Manager for Orion that he recommended if you will not be running boost or timing. It's the setup that Cav and a few other Team Drivers used at this year's Stock Nationals at OC/RC. All you do is use profile 4 under running mode
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Old 12-21-2014, 09:29 AM   #9902
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The top shaft bearings dont always seat the best. use the topshaft and try to press them into place.
The weird thing about it is that it is smooth all the way around except for a couple tight spots for like to or three "clicks" on the spur gear.

So I guess what I am say is that if you turn the spur really slow, it is smooth until you hit the spot where there are two or three spots (I would say like clicks or teeth on the spur) where it is not smooth.

If you grab the slipper clutch nut and spin it from there, it is smooth and you can barely feel the "clicks" at all... Almost like there is a mesh of the geras that needs to be broken in.

It is not the whole rotation of the spur that is "clicky" at all, just that one little spot in the system...

Only way I could explain it. I am a rookie!!

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Old 12-21-2014, 09:32 AM   #9903
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Default Weight difference between B5 and B5M

Is there a big difference in weight between the B5 and the B5M? Just picked up a B5 and noted how light it is compared to my Schumacher SV2 and was wondering if the B5M was heavier with the aluminum chassis.

Running 17.5, the SV2 is a bit too heavy to make short run up jumps. Rotates awesome and is very planted but needs more motor to make it shine.
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Guys, how do I stop my rear drive cups from hitting the cva driveshafts and breaking them? Limiters inside the shocks or limiter above eyelet to stop up travel?
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The weird thing about it is that it is smooth all the way around except for a couple tight spots for like to or three "clicks" on the spur gear.

So I guess what I am say is that if you turn the spur really slow, it is smooth until you hit the spot where there are two or three spots (I would say like clicks or teeth on the spur) where it is not smooth.

If you grab the slipper clutch nut and spin it from there, it is smooth and you can barely feel the "clicks" at all... Almost like there is a mesh of the geras that needs to be broken in.

It is not the whole rotation of the spur that is "clicky" at all, just that one little spot in the system...

Only way I could explain it. I am a rookie!!

Thanks!
Pretty normal for a stock spur. They aren't perfectly round. The way I set the mesh with a gear like that is to find the "high" spot and set the mesh there. If you get an aftermarket spur like a Jconcepts they are machined and are more precise.
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Guys, how do I stop my rear drive cups from hitting the cva driveshafts and breaking them? Limiters inside the shocks or limiter above eyelet to stop up travel?
Depends. Are they hitting when compressed? Then limiters above the eyelet. If they are binding when lifted in the air then limiters IN the shock.
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Depends. Are they hitting when compressed? Then limiters above the eyelet. If they are binding when lifted in the air then limiters IN the shock.
Haha Thanks I knew the options and when to use them haha,the thing is that I'm not certain when they are hitting, was hoping someone else had encountered the issue so I wasn't guessing.
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So correct me if im wrong but you are breaking the outdrive? If so i have never heard of that and when are they breaking? After a cartwheel in the sweeper or just landing off a double or something?
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Pretty normal for a stock spur. They aren't perfectly round. The way I set the mesh with a gear like that is to find the "high" spot and set the mesh there. If you get an aftermarket spur like a Jconcepts they are machined and are more precise.
You would be perfectly correct. IF the guy you quoted was talking about his pinion/spur gear mesh. He's not, he's talking about the gears IN the tranny. Which IMO simply need to break in.
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Haha Thanks I knew the options and when to use them haha,the thing is that I'm not certain when they are hitting, was hoping someone else had encountered the issue so I wasn't guessing.
Sounded to me like you were asking.
"Guys, how do I stop my rear drive cups from hitting the cva driveshafts and breaking them? Limiters inside the shocks or limiter above eyelet to stop up travel?"
Anyway never had that problem but I do have scrape marks on the shafts though. Most likely they are hitting on the way up. Probably binding when landing kind of sideways off a jump. It will fully compress the shock and even flex the a arm a bit. If you are consistently having this problem I don't see why a 1mm spacer or two would hurt.
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You would be perfectly correct. IF the guy you quoted was talking about his pinion/spur gear mesh. He's not, he's talking about the gears IN the tranny. Which IMO simply need to break in.
Ha I thought he was talking about pinion/spur mesh.
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So correct me if im wrong but you are breaking the outdrive? If so i have never heard of that and when are they breaking? After a cartwheel in the sweeper or just landing off a double or something?
No, I'm breaking driveshafts. And no it's not after catastrophic crashes. On my drive shafts you can see what I can only analogize to the marks of an axe on a tree, slowly overtime it looks as tho the edge of the out drive cup is hitting the shaft and eventually it's hit so many times it breaks, I'd take a pic but it's on in my car at the moment.
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are you using gear diffs?
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would a fully upgraded b4.1 still be able to compete with the b5m? or time to hang up the b4.1 and move on?
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are you using gear diffs?
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