R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric Off-Road

    Hide Wikipost
Old 03-09-2017, 12:23 AM   -   Wikipost
R/C Tech Forums Thread Wiki: Official Team Associated RC10 B5m Mid-Motor Thread
Please read: This is a community-maintained wiki post containing the most important information from this thread. You may edit the Wiki once you have been a member for 90 days and have made 90 posts.
 
Last edit by: RCBuddha
Quick link to the front page

First Page

Print Wikipost

Like Tree6Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-18-2014, 01:50 PM   #9826
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 128
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

Based on everyones posts, It seems that if you are a serious racer that changes shock oil 3 time a race weekend the spacer is best and if you are an average joe out to have fun and not tinker, the screws make would be better. Associates engineers could design the car for either but they went with spacers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by user1 View Post
I just built my B5M and have to say I am disappointed in the design of the suspension. Tuning droop with spacers under the shock pistons?!?! Come on. Looking it over, it would have been so easy for them to put droop screws in the back A arms. The chassis is could have had ears coming out like on the RC8.2e and wouldn't have cost them a penny. The front is a little trickier but with a little design work they could have incorporated the ears in the front hinge pin mount. It really is disappointing. Letís face it, spacers under the shock piston is a very amateur design. I would rather turn a screw to adjust droop instead of tearing apart a set of shocks in between rounds. That is assuming you have time to do that. With droop being such an important tuning tool, I would think Associated would have made it better for their customers. Donít get me wrong, I like the car in general, but with just a little effort, it could have been really nice.
ktacket1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 02:00 PM   #9827
Tech Champion
 
thecman26's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: South Central Kansas
Posts: 7,685
Trader Rating: 98 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Socket View Post
Back in the day we called it the mail order gamble.

You never know what you'll get!

Even back then, you bought the aftermarket "tuned" motors, and that's what I'd continue to recommend if you're serious about 17.5. There's a couple companies that build mass produced numbers and can hand pick them for you. Trinity does this with their "certified" line, as does Express as well. I believe R1 wurks does, but I don't have any experience with their stuff.
This place has some great motors too!

http://www.fantomracing.com/categori...ushless+Motors
__________________
Chris Keen: Viola, Kansas
Kyosho RZ6, TLR 22 3.0, TLR 4.0 SR (soon),& 22T 3.0
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken!", Col. Sanders
thecman26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 02:03 PM   #9828
Tech Champion
 
thecman26's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: South Central Kansas
Posts: 7,685
Trader Rating: 98 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.America View Post
Fantom does not hand pick motors
They do hand pick parts and match components to make great motors!
__________________
Chris Keen: Viola, Kansas
Kyosho RZ6, TLR 22 3.0, TLR 4.0 SR (soon),& 22T 3.0
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken!", Col. Sanders
thecman26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 02:06 PM   #9829
Tech Champion
 
thecman26's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: South Central Kansas
Posts: 7,685
Trader Rating: 98 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by user1 View Post
I just built my B5M and have to say I am disappointed in the design of the suspension. Tuning droop with spacers under the shock pistons?!?! Come on. Looking it over, it would have been so easy for them to put droop screws in the back A arms. The chassis is could have had ears coming out like on the RC8.2e and wouldn't have cost them a penny. The front is a little trickier but with a little design work they could have incorporated the ears in the front hinge pin mount. It really is disappointing. Letís face it, spacers under the shock piston is a very amateur design. I would rather turn a screw to adjust droop instead of tearing apart a set of shocks in between rounds. That is assuming you have time to do that. With droop being such an important tuning tool, I would think Associated would have made it better for their customers. Donít get me wrong, I like the car in general, but with just a little effort, it could have been really nice.
I am gonna guess this is your first 1/10th scale build? I say this because we have been adjusting droop with spacers you years and years! Droop screws are an 1/8th scale thing! That is until I got my DESC210, those have droop screws. FWIW in a pinch you can unscrew the shock bottom for quick adjustment.
__________________
Chris Keen: Viola, Kansas
Kyosho RZ6, TLR 22 3.0, TLR 4.0 SR (soon),& 22T 3.0
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken!", Col. Sanders
thecman26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 02:10 PM   #9830
Tech Champion
 
thecman26's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: South Central Kansas
Posts: 7,685
Trader Rating: 98 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hobbyten View Post
Who are you trying to kid. I no of at least one dealer here in Mi. who was getting special one of a kind motors from them. It was at a price but he had them.
For a price you can buy them too! It's a healthy price!
They are called works edition!

http://www.fantomracing.com/proddeta...prod=FAN27847W
__________________
Chris Keen: Viola, Kansas
Kyosho RZ6, TLR 22 3.0, TLR 4.0 SR (soon),& 22T 3.0
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken!", Col. Sanders
thecman26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 02:25 PM   #9831
Super Moderator
 
Cpt.America's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Washington State
Posts: 11,083
Trader Rating: 52 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thecman26 View Post
They do hand pick parts and match components to make great motors!
no... they don't.
__________________
A big thanks to my sponsors:
- Fantom Racing - www.fantomracing.com -
- Fusion Graphix- www.fusiongraphix.com -
- RCSpecialties -
Cpt.America is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 02:28 PM   #9832
Tech Prophet
 
Wildcat1971's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Arizona
Posts: 16,909
Trader Rating: 80 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.America View Post
no... they don't.
You are sponsored by Fantom, so please clarify?
__________________
Support: Team Associated | Reedy Motors & ESC's | Sanwa Radios | Avid | Proline Tires
Wildcat1971 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 02:31 PM   #9833
Tech Champion
 
thecman26's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: South Central Kansas
Posts: 7,685
Trader Rating: 98 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.America View Post
no... they don't.
If ya pay them $$$ they sure as hell do!
I bought a matched and tuned motor from them not too long ago and its a beast I must say!
__________________
Chris Keen: Viola, Kansas
Kyosho RZ6, TLR 22 3.0, TLR 4.0 SR (soon),& 22T 3.0
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken!", Col. Sanders
thecman26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 05:29 PM   #9834
Tech Master
 
chef88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Annapolis MD
Posts: 1,297
Trader Rating: 48 (100%+)
Default

Building my first Off Road in 15 years.
Everything going smooth so far...
I was wondering does anyone make a diff Thrust Ball Assembly w carbide balls for the B5M?
Really do need to improve what comes in the box.
Thanks


Actually found one...........
Schelle Racing Innovations
__________________
X -Ray X1.TRF 101
Rebel 12, T4 2017.
Maryland Funster/ Beneteau 373.
180 Raceway/ Johns Mobile Raceway.

Last edited by chef88; 12-18-2014 at 07:04 PM.
chef88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 05:33 PM   #9835
Tech Master
 
BRSracing's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Blue Springs MO
Posts: 1,506
Trader Rating: 53 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Socket View Post
Back in the day we called it the mail order gamble.

You never know what you'll get!

Even back then, you bought the aftermarket "tuned" motors, and that's what I'd continue to recommend if you're serious about 17.5. There's a couple companies that build mass produced numbers and can hand pick them for you. Trinity does this with their "certified" line, as does Express as well. I believe R1 wurks does, but I don't have any experience with their stuff.

thanks for the info. I think i am going that direction.
BRSracing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 06:44 PM   #9836
Tech Regular
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Salem, OR
Posts: 312
Trader Rating: 14 (100%+)
Default Aftermarket Aluminum Parts

Are the aftermarket parts (Associated or not) worth the money or are they just "bling". Like rear ball mount, hinge pin brace etc?

Or should I just get a good slipper and run the stock build?

Just wondering if there is any advantage to the aftermarket parts besides look?
sstriano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 06:53 PM   #9837
Tech Champion
 
thecman26's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: South Central Kansas
Posts: 7,685
Trader Rating: 98 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sstriano View Post
Are the aftermarket parts (Associated or not) worth the money or are they just "bling". Like rear ball mount, hinge pin brace etc?

Or should I just get a good slipper and run the stock build?

Just wondering if there is any advantage to the aftermarket parts besides look?
Rear ball mount for sure, durability upgrade.
Rear hinge pin mounts are more adjustability and durability as well as a lil bling!
Frint hinge pin brace durability and bling

If it is in your budget the only must haves in this kit is the rear ballstud mount and Schelle ceramic gearbox bearings. The rest is optional. Maybe the JC finned turnbuckles would be a good down the road upgrade.
__________________
Chris Keen: Viola, Kansas
Kyosho RZ6, TLR 22 3.0, TLR 4.0 SR (soon),& 22T 3.0
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken!", Col. Sanders
thecman26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 07:14 PM   #9838
Tech Regular
 
deftones.jt@gma's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Fowlerville, MI
Posts: 343
Trader Rating: 26 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sstriano View Post
Are the aftermarket parts (Associated or not) worth the money or are they just "bling". Like rear ball mount, hinge pin brace etc?

Or should I just get a good slipper and run the stock build?

Just wondering if there is any advantage to the aftermarket parts besides look?
Build the kit to stock. Buy a good slipper and the correct tires for your track. You are 95 percent there IMO. The rest is bling unless you are trying to lighten for stock racing!!
__________________
STOCK FT RC10B5M Trinity D4 17.5 Hobbywing v3.1
MOD FT RC10B5M Trinity D3.5 8.5 Hobbywing v3.1
B5 NATION BABY!!
deftones.jt@gma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 09:38 PM   #9839
Tech Champion
 
STLNLST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 8,882
Trader Rating: 19 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chef88 View Post
Actually found one...........
Schelle Racing Innovations
That's what I run in mine. Also has ceramic thrusts
__________________
REMEMBER THE GOOD OLE DAYS..........THEY'RE NEVER COMING BACK SO WE'RE STUCK WITH THE MESS IN FRONT OF US!!!!
STLNLST is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2014, 10:12 PM   #9840
Tech Apprentice
 
Zaxbys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: southern minnesooota
Posts: 76
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 View Post
You are sponsored by Fantom, so please clarify?
I think he did a pretty good job of clarifying on post #9825
Zaxbys is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 8 (2 members and 6 guests)
eragot, tvih
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 10:45 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net