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Old 10-15-2014, 12:42 PM   #8476
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the stock slipper is trash. Get the Avid EVO Triad. It is so much better.
+1 especially for stock, mod you can kinda get away with it but it still sucks. I run the avid triad too.

And ya the Electrons are awesome! I would get some 2.2 clays as well they also work well when the track is dusty but its good to have both M4's and MC's.
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Old 10-15-2014, 12:44 PM   #8477
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I've just joined the forum and im looking for some advise about "inline battery set up" for the b5m. What advantages would I gain and what would the disadvantages be handling wise?
I only race on astroturf tracks in the UK and this setup isn't that popular so there is very little information about it on the UK forums so any help/advise would be great.


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Old 10-15-2014, 12:58 PM   #8478
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I've just joined the forum and im looking for some advise about "inline battery set up" for the b5m. What advantages would I gain and what would the disadvantages be handling wise?
I only race on astroturf tracks in the UK and this setup isn't that popular so there is very little information about it on the UK forums so any help/advise would be great.


Thanks Alex
A few pages back I gave a rather long post about my feeling of the inline setup from the weekend. Check it out. I added some pictures as well.
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:50 PM   #8479
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In regards to the slipper, I was trying to back it off in order to allow a softer "on throttle" power curve, to keep the rear wheels under the car and keep the rear from coming around. No matter where I set it, tight or loose, didn't seem to make a difference. Early in the day when the track is tacky, I will run it on the tight side. As far as the B5R arms, that I have not yet tried, although I did shorten the wheel base by moving both rear washers to the back of the blocks... it may have helped a little in forward bite once the car was straight, but didn't seem to help the "throttle loose" condition off the corner. I am not hammering the throttle either, more of a progressive pull... still seems to unhook fairly east though. I ordered the M4 Electrons, and we'll see how that works next week. Don't want to try too many things at once.
Play with your roll centers, droop and maybe even try a change of tire or insert.
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:28 AM   #8480
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Anyone running the Viper VTX10R system?
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:30 AM   #8481
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I used to run the viper stuff. what is your question?
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Just looking for insight into known issues or flaws. Trying to decide between the vtx10r, hobbywing v3.1, or orion r10. The price of the orion program card is ridiculous though
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:50 AM   #8483
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how the mip puck drive bi metal for a stock b 5 m kit I have a fantom 17.5 a pex works motor
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Just looking for insight into known issues or flaws. Trying to decide between the vtx10r, hobbywing v3.1, or orion r10. The price of the orion program card is ridiculous though
I am running one. I have used quite a few esc's in 10th over the years.
LRP, SP, Tekin and viper.

So far i am liking the viper the best. I have nor run a 3.1 and have driven cars with the orion before.

What i really like about the viper is the price and the adjustability. They are easy to setup and make changes on, smooth, run cool and just work for me the best in 2wd.
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Just looking for insight into known issues or flaws. Trying to decide between the vtx10r, hobbywing v3.1, or orion r10. The price of the orion program card is ridiculous though
vtx10r - zero first hand experience... mainly because I think viper makes a sub-par product. Seen too many failures and complaints at my track to give them a shot.

hobbywing v3.1 - best esc I have ever run. I am running the stock spec 3.1 right now, and it is fantastic. Smoothness of throttle and brake response is the envy of all others... The programing card IS required in order to do anything on the ESC... however, the programing card is pretty cheap. Downside to this ESC, is that programing with the card is less than completely intuitive. Took me a bit to figure out how it all worked (i.e. downloading firmware from their website, getting it onto the card, and setting the esc to a standard blinky mode setting)

orion r10 - I have used this ESC extensively on mutliple platforms. Solid ESC, doesn't feel quite as good as the hobbywing, and it's brakes are inferior. The orion programing card does cost more, BUT... you can program all your basic functions on the ESC itself. The card isn't required. I will have 2 or 3 of these for sale any day now.

My vote is certainly the HW3.1
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Ok, I have owned the vipers, HWs and I now run Orions. I will give you my honest opions.

Vipers - they have a good feel and are very tunable. The pro gauge is pretty nice and not costly. Viper also has a military discount program. 30$ off their web price. They are small and fit in the B5 very nicely. All of my vipers developed an issue when landing jumps after like 6-12 months. They would reboot. Performance wise they are very smooth on the power and very tunable, but after running the orion i have to say the brakes are not the best.

Orion r10 - Great ESC, best breaks of the many brands I have run. The SS firmware does make a 17.5 quicker and have more grunt. The program box is stupid expensive, but you can use a laptop and the hobbyking usb link to program it. It is powerfull enough for a 2wd buggy or a 4x4 sct truck running a 4 pole motor. The switch and cap piss me off. They put a stupid plastic cover on the cap and switch that make it a pain to put in the limited space of todays 2wd cars. I actually put a HW switch on my orion, removed the plastic case on the caps and used shrink tube to cover it.

HW v3.1 - This is a very good esc. The stock SPec is all you need for a 2wd or even 4wd buggy. And the price is very good at $129ish. The program box is around $30, much less than the $95 for the orion box. The support on RCtech is much better than the orion. It has an onboard switch, which is nice for the B5M and you can turn the car off, by holding the brake. Performance wise, it is right there with the Orion R10, but it has much more tuning options. It is only 100amp and i would not put it in a sct 4x4, but otherwise it is fine for 10th scale. The biggest grips I have about this esc is: If the switch fails, you are done. And I dislike the solder posts on the side. I prefer solder posts on the rear.
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A few pages back I gave a rather long post about my feeling of the inline setup from the weekend. Check it out. I added some pictures as well.
Thanks, I had a look at it. Can anyone else shed anymore information about it???
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Thanks, those are the reply's I was looking for. I know a few who run the viper in 4x4sc and have developed problems. I'll have to look into the hobbywing stock spec esc as stock class is dead in this area so I'll be running 8.5 to 10.5 motor probably.
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the stock spec is good down to like 5.5 turns. So you will be fine.
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Thanks, those are the reply's I was looking for. I know a few who run the viper in 4x4sc and have developed problems. I'll have to look into the hobbywing stock spec esc as stock class is dead in this area so I'll be running 8.5 to 10.5 motor probably.
The stock spec is still the esc you will want to run. I would only bump up into the 160A version of the 3.1 if running a super low turn mod motor in either 4wheel offroad, or touring car onroad. For everything else, get the stock spec. Can't beat the price.
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