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Old 09-28-2014, 09:48 PM   #8146
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Depending on when and where you need more steering...

On power, off power, corner entry or corner exit?

If it is everywhere on the track you either need some major setup changes or you are over-driving the car.
Knowing me probably just overdriving it.

But anyways, what did at the end of the day was going from 2mm spacers on the steering rack to 3mm and it seemed to help, because I just wanted more entail steering.

Off power steering is decent but onpower steering is definitely lacking.
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Old 09-28-2014, 10:33 PM   #8147
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Put more limiters in your front shocks for more on power steering
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I think the avid is like 16 grams lighter. the pucks will shave off another 25 grams and the MIP topshaft will shave of like 10. That steep topshaft is heavy. with the MIP top shaft and pucks, you should notice quite a bit more snap power.
That's exactly what I'm looking for, a little more weight reduction and a little more snap.
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Old 09-29-2014, 06:35 AM   #8149
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I run on a high traction clay track. This weekend I had so much traction that I was battling wheelies and I had no on-power steering. It would just push through the turns. I added some stick-on weights up front and it gave me the planted feel and the steering that I was looking for, but I gained a severe problem with traction rolling.

What can I do to fix this?

I think I'm going to buy the brass arm mount for the front so I can get rid of the stick-on weights and add the weight as low as possible.
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I run on a high traction clay track. This weekend I had so much traction that I was battling wheelies and I had no on-power steering. It would just push through the turns. I added some stick-on weights up front and it gave me the planted feel and the steering that I was looking for, but I gained a severe problem with traction rolling.

What can I do to fix this?

I think I'm going to buy the brass arm mount for the front so I can get rid of the stick-on weights and add the weight as low as possible.
what is your set-up today? Do you have traction roll issues too? There are a lot of things you can do with springs and oils and weight transfer to help this.
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Old 09-29-2014, 07:22 AM   #8151
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I have seen a lot of comments about kit bearings. I just got my B5M kit and was assembling it yesterday and noticed that the small wheel bearings for the front spindles are not very smooth. I think I will be getting better bearings right away. I am using the stock steel spindles and glued in my inserts. So my bearing seem stiff and one side is gritty out of the box. Is THIS what everyone is seeing with their stock kit?
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Old 09-29-2014, 07:32 AM   #8152
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Yep, pretty much.
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I run on a high traction clay track. This weekend I had so much traction that I was battling wheelies and I had no on-power steering. It would just push through the turns. I added some stick-on weights up front and it gave me the planted feel and the steering that I was looking for, but I gained a severe problem with traction rolling.

What can I do to fix this?

I think I'm going to buy the brass arm mount for the front so I can get rid of the stick-on weights and add the weight as low as possible.
First thing I would do is use a stiffer spring on the back. That will do two things, take away just a little traction and also give you more steering.
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Old 09-29-2014, 07:38 AM   #8154
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what is your set-up today? Do you have traction roll issues too? There are a lot of things you can do with springs and oils and weight transfer to help this.
It's the stock setup except I changed the rear springs to white.
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It's the stock setup except I changed the rear springs to white.
The track was tough this weekend as it was just rebuilt this week. Jeremy was startng to lift the inside tires in the 3rd heat and he was traction rolling in the main too. Make sure you are setting a consistent ride height with tire changes. The slicks are taller i believe.
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Here is my setup:
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...E89F581%211429
(Also running B5 rear arms)

What would you guys suggest changing on it?
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I like running a rear swaybar myself. It will help keep the front tires on the ground when on power. If you haven't tried one, I suggest you do.
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I like running a rear swaybar myself. It will help keep the front tires on the ground when on power. If you haven't tried one, I suggest you do.
If your goal is to subtract overall traction in the corners (mostly from the rear), sure. The rear sway bar keeps the rear of the car from rolling as much, shifting perceived traction to the front. Problem is that is also increases steering at entry, mid and exit. There are other/better ways to increase on-power steering, without taking away rear traction EVERYWHERE on the track.
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:25 AM   #8159
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If you have plenty of rear traction then it's not an issue. Personally I like a sharp steering car.

Not saying it's for everyone, but you can't really say it's not for you if you haven't tried it.
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Have got a fair bit of slop in the front hub bearing inserts. Any thing I can try to remove this? Second set of hubs and inserts on the car along with new bearings
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