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Old 08-20-2014, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
what exactly would be huge from the FT parts? IMO nothing is huge for performance in mod. For stock? just get the RM car and save your money. MM is not great in stock, it "works" but is not great.
No, dont tell me this. My admitted obsession with the MM might be too powerful for your completely reasonable, honest, and educated advice.

I have nothing smart to say at this time

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Welcome to the forum Jason. Get the the B5M now and have fun now. Unless you are getting serious about the 17.5 class I would not worry about making it too lite.

If you don't like the MM, sell it and you should have enough to get a RM.

Just install some titanium turnbuckles get the right tires and have fun already.
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Originally Posted by Jason Baliban
Can somebody please convince me to stop waiting for the factory team kit to come out?

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Will a free pizza & beer be enough to stop you waiting ?
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Originally Posted by GTSSTANG
Welcome to the forum Jason. Get the the B5M now and have fun now. Unless you are getting serious about the 17.5 class I would not worry about making it too lite.

If you don't like the MM, sell it and you should have enough to get a RM.

Just install some titanium turnbuckles get the right tires and have fun already.
Thank you

This is good encouragement for me. I dont know, i guess i always feel like i am going to get something and then the next day something WAY better is going to come out. I always try to tell myself its not the arrow its the indian, but i stumble sometimes.

Any other suggestions besides lunsford for turnB's?

Also, i have heard some folks talking about schelle bearings....worth an immediate upgrade?

Anything else you might recommend as far as true upgrades?

I am probly going to pick up some RM arms as suggested by many to try out.

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Will a free pizza & beer be enough to stop you waiting ?
WC, whats on the pizza?

Thanks

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Opinions on square pack vs shorty pack? Seems like most of the pros are using shorties. I'm getting my B5M this Friday and I'm curious.
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Originally Posted by Jason Baliban
Thank you

This is good encouragement for me. I dont know, i guess i always feel like i am going to get something and then the next day something WAY better is going to come out. I always try to tell myself its not the arrow its the indian, but i stumble sometimes.

Any other suggestions besides lunsford for turnB's?

Also, i have heard some folks talking about schelle bearings....worth an immediate upgrade?

Anything else you might recommend as far as true upgrades?

I am probly going to pick up some RM arms as suggested by many to try out.



WC, whats on the pizza?

Thanks

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The JConcepts FIN turnB's are great as well. Some other things I would do are a schelle, or avid, or FT bearing kit cause the kit ones are not great. and the aluminum rear mounts are a breeze to change anti squat and toe with. Other than that its an awesome car right out of the box.
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Opinions on square pack vs shorty pack? Seems like most of the pros are using shorties. I'm getting my B5M this Friday and I'm curious.
Lazy easier driving car... square pack. Something a lil more reactive and agile... shorty. I prefer the shorty. Drives like a pig IMO with a square or saddles
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Originally Posted by Jason Baliban
Thank you

This is good encouragement for me. I dont know, i guess i always feel like i am going to get something and then the next day something WAY better is going to come out. I always try to tell myself its not the arrow its the indian, but i stumble sometimes.

Any other suggestions besides lunsford for turnB's?

Also, i have heard some folks talking about schelle bearings....worth an immediate upgrade?

Anything else you might recommend as far as true upgrades?

I am probly going to pick up some RM arms as suggested by many to try out.



WC, whats on the pizza?

Thanks

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if you are a casual and dont care about motor temps or going fast, run it box stock in 17.5. Put a really small pinion like a 28 and 78 spur. you will be slow, but you wont fry a motor either. Dont worry about the 1700 gram car you are driving around. Just know you can literally push people around the track. Just do laps and have some fun. /sarcasm off. Just run mod if you are in dire need of a MM car. If you are not going to spend $500 plus on a good car for stock, just run the box stock in mod. I tried the MM at stock weight in 17.5 and is sucked. It cornered fine, but could barely jump at all. The MM car is fun to drive for sure, but for stock you need some cash. And not FT cash. All that alum only makes it heavier. You need to ditch that massive slipper minimally. If the FT comes out and it is full alum hardware, then LOL. worst stock buggy ever. Just run mod and save yourself the issues. get a 13.5 or 10.5 and run mod
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
if you are a casual and dont care about motor temps or going fast, run it box stock in 17.5. Put a really small pinion like a 28 and 78 spur. you will be slow, but you wont fry a motor either. Dont worry about the 1700 gram car you are driving around. Just know you can literally push people around the track. Just do laps and have some fun. /sarcasm off. Just run mod if you are in dire need of a MM car. If you are not going to spend $500 plus on a good car for stock, just run the box stock in mod. I tried the MM at stock weight in 17.5 and is sucked. It cornered fine, but could barely jump at all. The MM car is fun to drive for sure, but for stock you need some cash. And not FT cash. All that alum only makes it heavier. You need to ditch that massive slipper minimally. If the FT comes out and it is full alum hardware, then LOL. worst stock buggy ever. Just run mod and save yourself the issues. get a 13.5 or 10.5 and run mod
Awesome! I appreciate it.

In actuality, i talked myself into running stock. I really always had something hotter than a stock motor in every car i ever driven since i was a kiddo. I just figure if i was really going to take it seriously (take that with a grain of salt) that i should start stock. From the sound of it, it actually sounds more expensive and more about car tuning than actual driving (being dramatic here).

Ok, mod it is.

I think you used the jedi mind trick on me and it felt alright.

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Originally Posted by Skeeter36
The JConcepts FIN turnB's are great as well. Some other things I would do are a schelle, or avid, or FT bearing kit cause the kit ones are not great. and the aluminum rear mounts are a breeze to change anti squat and toe with. Other than that its an awesome car right out of the box.
The schelle mounts?

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Awesome! I appreciate it.

In actuality, i talked myself into running stock. I really always had something hotter than a stock motor in every car i ever driven since i was a kiddo. I just figure if i was really going to take it seriously (take that with a grain of salt) that i should start stock. From the sound of it, it actually sounds more expensive and more about car tuning than actual driving (being dramatic here).

Ok, mod it is.

I think you used the jedi mind trick on me and it felt alright.

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stock is not like the stock of old. There is nothing stock about it. Good choice on mod. nothing wrong with the stock mounts. Only upgrade you need for mod is the alum rear camber block for durability and the Ti turnbuckles for durability. Lunsfords offer a life time warranty against bending or breaking. No one else does that and they cost the same as everyone else.
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Lunsfords offer a life time warranty against bending or breaking. No one else does that and they cost the same as everyone else.
Really nothing further to discuss about that, huh?! Awesome!

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The schelle mounts?

Thanks!

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Bearings, that's what he was talking about. The gearbox bearings are awful!
Replace those things while your building and keep em for spares only!

JConcepts finned B4 titanium turnbuckles and Aluminum rear camber block only "Needed" upgrades right away.

Otherwise it's a GREAT car out of the box!

I went with the front hexes because I didn't like the narrow hex of the stock axles. Personal preference!
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Bearings, that's what he was talking about. The gearbox bearings are awful!
Replace those things while your building and keep em for spares only!

JConcepts finned B4 titanium turnbuckles and Aluminum rear camber block only "Needed" upgrades right away.

Otherwise it's a GREAT car out of the box!

I went with the front hexes because I didn't like the narrow hex of the stock axles. Personal preference!
The blocks are AE parts correct?

91522 and 91524, right? Or the brass versions if i wanted?

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The blocks are AE parts correct?

91522 and 91524, right? Or the brass versions if i wanted?

Thank you

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Those are ok but not totally needed! Just make adjusting toe easier, I never adjust that, set and forget.
This is what I was referring to.

http://teamassociated.com/parts/details/91520/
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