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Old 05-18-2014, 09:53 PM   #4561
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Default Is this slop in the B5M tranny normal

Tonight I finally got a few minutes free to rebuild my B5M transmission with cut gears and ceramic bearing from Schelle.

Is way smoother than it was with the stock gears and bearings.

Butů there is slop in the bearings that the diff rides in. The diff moves laterally back and forth maybe a MM total, like maybe .5 MM slop on each side.

It's almost like the bearings in the Schelle kit are just a bit narrow.

Is this normal; is it possible the slop was there with the stock bearings and I just didn't notice it? Does anyone else have this slop?
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Old 05-19-2014, 12:32 AM   #4562
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Regarding mounting a fan and trying to deal with the extra heat from running a Mid Motor this is what I came up with. Hoping this opens up the window to timing and gearing options:



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Old 05-19-2014, 04:09 AM   #4563
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Remove the waterfall or brace and the rear flex becomes excessive and adds to much traction with a lost of stability.

The car's stall is made stronger and becomes quite noticeable .

Whole reason for the inline to reduce the stall all mid motors battle.
What is this stall ?
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Im curious who makes the stock body for Associated. So far with the B5's the only complaint I have is with the bodies. They are way too thin. I use velcro to hold mine on, and the other day I was pushing the body down on the chassis and the side split out on it. The body seems much thinner than Proline or Joconcepts. I am guessing they saved money by not using Proline or Jconcepts bodies. I like the stock bodies but won't spend money to have one painted up nice. Anyone else have issue with the stock body?
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What is this stall ?
Stalling is something most mid motor designs battle.

In the middle of the corner the car stalls when rotating in the corner
Inexperienced drivers may not notice, experience driver can .

Problem is worst when having to much weight towards the rear of car and chassis roll is limited.
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I know what WC is referring to. Never heard it called stalling. Basically the car feels like its stuck mid turn and unable to rotate. I normally just adjust my like and speed to compensate. My RM cars do it also, it it can feel more pronounced in MM. In summery, the car kinda feels dead and unresponsive in the turn. Kinda like push, but not really.
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:29 AM   #4567
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wheres a good pace to starts with a shorty in the tray back front middel
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Start with the thin pad behind the battery & big pad in front.
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Start with the thin pad behind the battery & big pad in front.
thanks it that way now.
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Tonight I finally got a few minutes free to rebuild my B5M transmission with cut gears and ceramic bearing from Schelle.

Is way smoother than it was with the stock gears and bearings.

But… there is slop in the bearings that the diff rides in. The diff moves laterally back and forth maybe a MM total, like maybe .5 MM slop on each side.

It's almost like the bearings in the Schelle kit are just a bit narrow.

Is this normal; is it possible the slop was there with the stock bearings and I just didn't notice it? Does anyone else have this slop?
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These work the centro gear case had the same problem and what do you mean cut gears you cut them your self or some one makes them.
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These work the centro gear case had the same problem and what do you mean cut gears you cut them your self or some one makes them.
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Im curious who makes the stock body for Associated. So far with the B5's the only complaint I have is with the bodies. They are way too thin. I use velcro to hold mine on, and the other day I was pushing the body down on the chassis and the side split out on it. The body seems much thinner than Proline or Joconcepts. I am guessing they saved money by not using Proline or Jconcepts bodies. I like the stock bodies but won't spend money to have one painted up nice. Anyone else have issue with the stock body?

I just painted my body up yesterday and noticed it was very, VERY, thin. They definitely skimped on the body, but the rest of the car is solid. I just ordered a JConcepts Finnisher so the stock body will be my practice body.
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i know some of you have used the avid or schelle slipper system. Are there any reasons i would want to swap my stock one for one of those slippers ? What do you guys feel are the difference ? I run mod buggy by the way
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Tonight I finally got a few minutes free to rebuild my B5M transmission with cut gears and ceramic bearing from Schelle.

Is way smoother than it was with the stock gears and bearings.

Butů there is slop in the bearings that the diff rides in. The diff moves laterally back and forth maybe a MM total, like maybe .5 MM slop on each side.

It's almost like the bearings in the Schelle kit are just a bit narrow.

Is this normal; is it possible the slop was there with the stock bearings and I just didn't notice it? Does anyone else have this slop?
I just used a few Kyosho shims on the diff outdrives to remove the slop. There's still slop on the top shaft but I don't have a shim that would fit.

I'm pretty sure that these are the shims that I used.
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Inline shorty lipo was no good. Switched back to Hartson's inline setup and was dialed again. Would not recommend wasting time on the inline shorty mod.
Are you talking about hartsons setup sheet that AE has posted
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