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Old 01-08-2014, 09:28 AM   #331
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I am guessing Kody was one of the engineers. But I am not sure who the current AE engineers are.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:19 AM   #332
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wow, 2 weeks apart on the cars....good thing for tax returns And I would think those dates are credible. AE is normally 6-8 weeks from the time of the press release. Chinese New Year still could impact those dates or even customs.
hahahaha! you and your "Chinese New Year"
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hahahaha! you and your "Chinese New Year"
lol, I am still pissed from last year...lol. Everything I wanted was waiting for stock from china. People selling the sc10.2 arms on ebay for $30 was getting annoying, lol.
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The driving style is different as the two chassis have different strengths and weaknesses.

RM: More forward traction on power, easier to wheelie, better braking, more mid corner steering, less steering on power, can be loose off power due to rear tyres being overloaded / pendulum effect.

MM: Less forward traction on power, less wheelie, worse braking, less mid corner steering, more exit steering, very stable off power.

With an RM you have to drive 'point and shoot' to take advantage of its strengths. Brake hard into the corner, rotate it as tight as possible, punch it out of the corner. It tends to respond to tracks with sharper corners and lower traction.

With an MM you need to drive more of a racing line to take advantage of the smoother cornering. The forward traction isn't as high but you can hold a higher entry and mid corner speed. For flowing tracks and those with high grip, MM is much easier to drive fast. RM tend to be edgy to drive in these conditions.

MM with 4 gear also have very good pitch control in the air compared to an RM.

The pros have pretty much stuck to MM as they tend to run on tracks with decent traction. It seemed to take a long time for them to make the switch but they wouldn't be running them if they were slower. Ive back-back tested the MM and RM and it is very much dependent on track conditions. You can add ballast to both (to the front of an RM and the rear of an MM) to suit your track but the best handling comes when you have the least ballast hanging out one end of the car.

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hahahaha! you and your "Chinese New Year"
the Chinese new year closes some places down about a week at most. I think its more of an excuse than a reason why things get delayed. The way some make it sound is like the whole country closes for a month or more. I did some reading up on it and its just not the case.
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lol, I am still pissed from last year...lol. Everything I wanted was waiting for stock from china. People selling the sc10.2 arms on ebay for $30 was getting annoying, lol.
Yes and my luck I kept breaking parts that were out of stock lol.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned earlier in this thread, any word if Associated will release a Factory Team B5M or B5 kit or is this the only kit version going to be available?. I picture them releasing a Factory Team Edition once all the hop ups become available.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned earlier in this thread, any word if Associated will release a Factory Team B5M or B5 kit or is this the only kit version going to be available?. I picture them releasing a Factory Team Edition once all the hop ups become available.
I think your the first one to bring it up eveyones guess is next year on that.
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the Chinese new year closes some places down about a week at most. I think its more of an excuse than a reason why things get delayed. The way some make it sound is like the whole country closes for a month or more. I did some reading up on it and its just not the case.
I work in Asian product sourcing. It's not an excuse, it's very real. We do our best to schedule around it but if you miss, it causes big delays. The RC industry doesn't have a good record for being on time.
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I think your the first one to bring it up eveyones guess is next year on that.
LOL, time will tell i guess..........
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More than 2 months to go. Can't wait to build this puppy!
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Sadly I'm in need of too many other things to be able to pick this guy up yet.. Maybe this summer my wife will let me grab one.. Fingers crossed!
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Sadly I'm in need of too many other things to be able to pick this guy up yet.. Maybe this summer my wife will let me grab one.. Fingers crossed!
Sounds all too familiar...
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I work in Asian product sourcing. It's not an excuse, it's very real. We do our best to schedule around it but if you miss, it causes big delays. The RC industry doesn't have a good record for being on time.
obviously the Chinese new year is real, what I am saying is that a two month delay is not likely due to the Chinese new year, but more poor planning blamed on the new year.
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obviously the Chinese new year is real, what I am saying is that a two month delay is not likely due to the Chinese new year, but more poor planning blamed on the new year.
Two months is a little extreme but it's also not a 1-week shutdown followed by immediately resuming production at full capacity. Workers go home to the country and many don't come back. Capacity is diminished while the vendor hires and trains more workers. It's a cascading effect and that's just one example of the many ways it all goes wrong. You are right, if it is planned for, can be largely managed.
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