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Old 01-07-2014, 10:54 AM   #316
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:55 AM   #317
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Setting an RC budget is wise HOWEVER, when AE releases a new buggy... Budgets go out the window, kids go hungry, bills don't get paid... Just as long as I have my B5 and parts!! Haha

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Old 01-07-2014, 11:03 AM   #318
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well, looking over the past release for the last year or so, it looks like about 6-8 weeks after AE does the initial press release. But....."Chinese New Year" may cause issues. It could be worse. HB still has yet to give a release date in the 413 buggy. And it competed in the worlds in September. But like some people said. tower is usually pretty good for AE products. They carry more AE stuff than anyone else, including amain.
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From what I am seeing in the manual, the toe + antisquat will be built into the the rear arm mount.

No more stupid antisquat shims
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From what I am seeing in the manual, the toe + antisquat will be built into the the rear arm mount.

No more stupid antisquat shims
looks like we will need to replace the RF/RR arm mounts.
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Old 01-07-2014, 04:14 PM   #321
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So I just finished up building a b44.2 kit. Absolutely love it. Coming from running Short Course trucks.. It's like driving a tank then jumping into a Ferrari. I can't wait to see how this B5m will compare. Think I'm done with the SC trucks. Buggies are Awesome.. And thanks for everyone's input, very informative.. Think its time to start racing and quit bashing.
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I wonder why the O rings are used on the inner steering ballstuds? They're not used anywhere else.
With those angled steering ball cups I would assume they don't want them rotating around too much.
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Old 01-07-2014, 06:28 PM   #323
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Previous posters on this thread mentioned something on the order of MM driving differently than RM.

Could anyone go into greater detail about the differences in driving technique?
I have Durangos, switched back and forth, and of the people I know who've tried it, I'm the only one that likes the MM.

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I think the reason I like the MM is because I'm originally a touring car racer, and my lines tend to be more flowing, many describe my style as smooth. If I was more of a point and shoot kind of driver, I think I'd prefer the Porsche/RM, and I really think being too smooth can cost you time in off road. A point and shoot can definitely be faster in a lot of conditions, and I'm working on tighter, heavier braking type lines, but am happier with the MM feel if there's enough traction there to use it.
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So I just finished up building a b44.2 kit. Absolutely love it. Coming from running Short Course trucks.. It's like driving a tank then jumping into a Ferrari. I can't wait to see how this B5m will compare. Think I'm done with the SC trucks. Buggies are Awesome.. And thanks for everyone's input, very informative.. Think its time to start racing and quit bashing.
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Does driving a mm car feel a little more like a 4wd buggy?
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Does driving a mm car feel a little more like a 4wd buggy?
In the corners yes. If you can tune your way into some traction on power it will be very close. At Spektrum the top guys lap times between 2wd mm and 4wd were only 1/2 second apart. It was insane. I actually heard a half dozen people cursing "wtf" while watching the monitor during the race. It was completely ridiculous.
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Previous posters on this thread mentioned something on the order of MM driving differently than RM.

Could anyone go into greater detail about the differences in driving technique?

I'm seriously considering getting back into 1/10 buggy and have been trying to decide between RM and MM.
The driving style is different as the two chassis have different strengths and weaknesses.

RM: More forward traction on power, easier to wheelie, better braking, more mid corner steering, less steering on power, can be loose off power due to rear tyres being overloaded / pendulum effect.

MM: Less forward traction on power, less wheelie, worse braking, less mid corner steering, more exit steering, very stable off power.

With an RM you have to drive 'point and shoot' to take advantage of its strengths. Brake hard into the corner, rotate it as tight as possible, punch it out of the corner. It tends to respond to tracks with sharper corners and lower traction.

With an MM you need to drive more of a racing line to take advantage of the smoother cornering. The forward traction isn't as high but you can hold a higher entry and mid corner speed. For flowing tracks and those with high grip, MM is much easier to drive fast. RM tend to be edgy to drive in these conditions.

MM with 4 gear also have very good pitch control in the air compared to an RM.

The pros have pretty much stuck to MM as they tend to run on tracks with decent traction. It seemed to take a long time for them to make the switch but they wouldn't be running them if they were slower. Ive back-back tested the MM and RM and it is very much dependent on track conditions. You can add ballast to both (to the front of an RM and the rear of an MM) to suit your track but the best handling comes when you have the least ballast hanging out one end of the car.

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Amain has added the B5 and B5m to their upcoming products and release dates are 2/28 for B5 and 3/15 for B5m
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wow, 2 weeks apart on the cars....good thing for tax returns And I would think those dates are credible. AE is normally 6-8 weeks from the time of the press release. Chinese New Year still could impact those dates or even customs.
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Old 01-08-2014, 09:26 AM   #330
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I am still unclear on that one since it seems that testing is being done post design and cad drawings
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