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Old 03-24-2014, 08:25 AM   #2626
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Great looking track! But it's more about surface then what it looks like. What are the fast racers running at your track? At mine it's about 60% mid and 40% rear. This will change when the next batch of b5m's come in. The track Med/high to high bite, depending on the time of day.
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:30 AM   #2627
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Hi guys just a little confused with the shock spring cup.
all the spring cups are marked with a number but there is no number 5.
i tried measuring 5mm on all of them but none are that size what gives???
I used the tallest one all te way around
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:36 AM   #2628
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Hi guys just a little confused with the shock spring cup.
all the spring cups are marked with a number but there is no number 5.
i tried measuring 5mm on all of them but none are that size what gives???
I used these..
http://avidrc.com/product/5/accessor...cessories.html


The middle ones in the kit are the +5's. The tallest ones are +9
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:39 AM   #2629
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If you go with the tallest ones you may bottom out the spring on the top of the shock when trying to get the correct ride height, I when with the med size spring cup otherwise I couldn't get my buggy to 23.5mm
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:45 AM   #2630
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B5m isn't for everyone. The rear motor is more forgiving but the b5m is faster in the right hands on the right track.
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:59 AM   #2631
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So..I'm debating on getting rid of my B5M, I ran it quite a bit about a week ago at ocrc and it was nowhere near as good as my rear motor B5. I tried multiple setups / changes and it just felt like I had to baby it around the track compared to my B5. I have some stuff to try out this weekend so I may just give it another shot and see. I was excited at first after reading how everyone liked theirs but dissapointed after running it.
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We were in similar positions of feeling with the B5m, at first anyway. Even on my 3rd day out with trying to tune it, while it had made a little progress, I still wasn't thrilled with it... couldn't push the car out of the corners hard. Was also leaning towards getting rid of it. I hung onto it and it started coming together more on the 4th time out, and especially my 5th / last time out. Small changes on setup seemed to make larger changes of stability on the track than my previous cars, from what I can recall. Once you get it decent, you realize the car has great corner speed and forward bite, IMO. Not saying there isn't more refined tuning to go, but I am so much happier with the car now. Wish it would have been a lot closer to this out of the box.

Saturday will be here soon enough... maybe give it another go this weekend with the starting point setup for OCRC I gave ya, tweak as needed, and see how you feel after you sleep on it come Sunday morning. The B5m's are still tough to find, so selling yours in nice shape for a nice price shouldn't be an issue.

Not certain if I can meet up with ya Saturday. I'll check back with you though regardless. Good luck man!
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:01 AM   #2632
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disagree, statement is all wrong..


You should use the rear motor if your traction conditions are medium to less grip.

Higher the traction the more the mid will have the edge.

In other words some need both cars depending on traction conditions.
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:10 AM   #2633
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my shop has a rear motor in stock or sit it out to a b5 m is out no time frame
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:27 AM   #2634
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disagree, statement is all wrong..


You should use the rear motor if your traction conditions are medium to less grip.

Higher the traction the more the mid will have the edge.

In other words some need both cars depending on traction conditions.
Cherry what you said is exactly what I was implying...if anyone did any type of research on rm to mm they would learn that fast. And tires are the only change you should need to change when running indoors with surfaces med to high bite. Unless you run on all types of track conditions I believe one type of chassis is optimal because both cars drive different and adjusting driving styles is harder then having the correct types of tires on hand to find the right combo for your surface.
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Old 03-24-2014, 11:14 AM   #2635
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The layout design can favor a rear motor as well.
Lots of tight high speed corners & big jumps favor the rear design .



Only disadvantages the rear design has is when you are at big events .

At those races the traction is usually very high and the rear design becomes difficult to control & becomes darty as traction comes up.

My opinion still is one is not better then the other, you'll need both if you travel to other race facility's.
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The layout design can favor a rear motor as well.
Lots of tight high speed corners & big jumps favor the rear design .



Only disadvantages the rear design has is when you are at big events .

At those races the traction is usually very high and the rear design becomes difficult to control & becomes darty as traction comes up.

My opinion still is one is not better then the other, you'll need both if you travel to other race facility's.
Disagree. Our local track, Champs RC, is high bite and MM dominates there. RM just simply doesn't have the corner speed when traction is up... no matter the layout. I personally own both and enjoy how easy the B5 is on a loose outdoor track. B5m for high bite indoor.
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Old 03-24-2014, 12:02 PM   #2637
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I have only ran one pack car seems slow. with 72 33&34 no top end. 50 deg timing kill shot high tq 17.5.
If you have the kill shot whats your gearing? Timing>
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Old 03-24-2014, 01:10 PM   #2638
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I have only ran one pack car seems slow. with 72 33&34 no top end. 50 deg timing kill shot high tq 17.5.
If you have the kill shot whats your gearing? Timing>
try a 69 spur,i think those ht motors are good for sc or stadium truck.
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try a 69 spur,i think those ht motors are good for sc or stadium truck.
I have the avid with 69. Ill try that.
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Do the FT Low Friction X-Rings 91493 replace O-Ring 5407 in the shock assembly?
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