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Old 03-17-2014, 06:06 PM   #2311
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who (company) has a good assortment of metric shims? to do some of these changes I need a stock up on all sorts of shims - i'm a slight stickler on this. Tried the 3mm trailing and ran out of 1mm shims so i had to wing it with the plastic black .80mm hub spacers. ran out of those too.
Heres a suggestion, a lil pricey but ya get a lot!

http://www.amain.com/product_info.ph...cer-Set-TLR-22
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A less expensive solution http://www.amain.com/product_info.ph...cer-Set-TLR-22
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:13 PM   #2313
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So I'm doing some work on my car today and I was checking the front end for slop.

I'm finding there is some slop developing on the front hubs, the plastic parts used to adjust the front hubs are getting some slop developing. This is a little concerning because I haven't run my car all that much yet and wouldn't expect to see this type of slop developing at this point yet. I checked that the screw was tight in the end of the shaft, that's not the problem.

Anyone else seeing this?
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:13 PM   #2314
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you dont want those. I tried them on my losi car and they suck. Even worse if you run alum hubs or camber blocks. The stud can flex against the plastic washers and snap off. I learned that one the hard way
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:15 PM   #2315
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So I'm doing some work on my car today and I was checking the front end for slop.

I'm finding there is some slop developing on the front hubs, the plastic parts used to adjust the front hubs are getting some slop developing. This is a little concerning because I haven't run my car all that much yet and wouldn't expect to see this type of slop developing at this point yet. I checked that the screw was tight in the end of the shaft, that's not the problem.

Anyone else seeing this?
The trailing pieces are know to get sloppy. Some guys are running the hard versions of those parts to keep the slop down. Others are gluing the parts together once they find a trailing config they like
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Rigor. I remember you said you had removed the spacers from the inner rear ballstuds because when you were coming into 180 degree turns the car was "hooking" which I think you mean when you would enter into the turn, the rear end of the car was whipping around (same as mine does).
If so, from what I was just told here you and I want to add spacers or lengthen the rear camber link, not take the spacers away.
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This is the way I remember the link setups. Long is lazy.
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Rigor. I remember you said you had removed the spacers from the inner rear ballstuds because when you were coming into 180 degree turns the car was "hooking" which I think you mean when you would enter into the turn, the rear end of the car was whipping around (same as mine does).
If so, from what I was just told here you and I want to add spacers or lengthen the rear camber link, not take the spacers away.
This can also be caused by the front tires having too much traction. If the front tires have considerably more grip than the rear, or the front of the car is way too soft compared to the rear, the front will bite soo hard that the rear can't hold traction and will just start to rotate.
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He was looking for alumninum though.
I thought.
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EDIT: Wait... Is it the same front shock tower for both the B5R and B5M ?? I heard a different tower was needed for each front arm type ?? I can't go wrench for another few hours to find out the answer :P

The manuals say the B5 tower is PN 91373, the B5M PN is 91516.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:33 PM   #2321
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So I'm doing some work on my car today and I was checking the front end for slop.

I'm finding there is some slop developing on the front hubs, the plastic parts used to adjust the front hubs are getting some slop developing. This is a little concerning because I haven't run my car all that much yet and wouldn't expect to see this type of slop developing at this point yet. I checked that the screw was tight in the end of the shaft, that's not the problem.

Anyone else seeing this?
Get the "hard" version of the steering and/or caster blocks, and glue your inserts in for good. Folks already doing that.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:34 PM   #2322
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The manuals say the B5 tower is PN 91373, the B5M PN is 91516.
Amain had me confused for a few minutes. Thanks
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Yep, the TLR spacers are very nice. It's worth the $20.
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Don't forget which car had the fast lap, top 5 and top 10 jake.... Wish I could've stayed for the main but it was nice to compare the b5 and b5m. The m was different but the driving style was easily adaptable.

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is where i am at right now with my b5m. car was really easy to drive a medium traction dirt surface. when the track is dry it becomes dusty and traction levels are drastically decreased, in these conditions i would run hubs forward to gain rear grip, at a minor loss of steering.

car was so easy to drive everyone watching said it just looked SLOW on my TQ run for the night (ahead of a few b5r, xfactory cubed, b4.2s and some losi 22 2.0s) with this setup it didnt feel like it needed to driven hard to be fast.

on another note, using the b4.2 jconcepts wing the holes are drilled 5mm-6mm back from the "kit" marks. played with it as far forward as the b4.2 kit mark, and as far back as 12mm from them, ended up with the best feel at 5mm-6mm range.

using a shorty in the 4mm from back position it just felt like the car didnt have enough rear grip on medium bite, car seemed to swing hard on mid-exit. using a shorty i think i would go back to the 4mm trail setting to smooth it out some, and add a 1mm spacer on the rear brace.
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Don't forget which car had the fast lap, top 5 and top 10 jake.... Wish I could've stayed for the main but it was nice to compare the b5 and b5m. The m was different but the driving style was easily adaptable.
lol by like a tenth or so. but you also didnt have to drive with the group i had to the 2nd round.

and what happened on the other 5 laps? didnt you qual 3rd?
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