136LikesTeam Associated RC10 B5m Mid-Motor & Rear Motor Thread
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03-29-2015, 07:00 AM
I'm currently at 25-0 and the axle is inline which gives the most aggressive steering. Those are some crazy stiff springs! My setup is close. I think I could win with it with decent competition but my corner speed is limited by the push mid to exit. Shoot, I might be close enough that a bit of extra ride height in the rear might be enough.
03-29-2015, 10:06 AM
Ok for you guys that have ACTUALLY done all the lightweight mods(ie pucks,3 gear,chassis swap,etc) what are you seeing for lap time differences between the box stock car and the lightweight setup. I only have titanium screws and 3 gear and I gained maybe 2 tenths but I dropped 50degrees or more of heat
03-29-2015, 10:31 AM
03-29-2015, 11:36 AM
I'm currently at 25-0 and the axle is inline which gives the most aggressive steering. Those are some crazy stiff springs! My setup is close. I think I could win with it with decent competition but my corner speed is limited by the push mid to exit. Shoot, I might be close enough that a bit of extra ride height in the rear might be enough.
03-29-2015, 05:32 PM
I get your point but there is no perfect RC car. If every track was exactly the same, with exactly the same traction level all the way around, and every driver drove exactly the same, I think an optimal chassis setup and tire compound/tread profile could be engineered without too much trouble.
But even on the same track, conditions vary on different corners or jumps. You can have huge differences in traction level and how smooth the surface is within a few feet traveled.
The interaction between a race car, RC or full size, and the track enviironment is incredibly complex. That's part of why we keep getting new cars with new adjustments and geometries. Another reason is improvements in materials and manufacturing that make the cars more durable and or easier to work on.
But even on the same track, conditions vary on different corners or jumps. You can have huge differences in traction level and how smooth the surface is within a few feet traveled.
The interaction between a race car, RC or full size, and the track enviironment is incredibly complex. That's part of why we keep getting new cars with new adjustments and geometries. Another reason is improvements in materials and manufacturing that make the cars more durable and or easier to work on.
The bottom line is these debates have been raging since I started racing in 1985. Although much has changed, the majority is exactly the same, other than Internet debates added into the bench racing debate.
Everyone buys new cars looking for the wins, but the same guys win at local tracks and major events as with the previous design.
Like buying an Apple product. You don't need it, but you want the latest version.
I just don't get the arguing as if somebody knows what's really best in spite of it all. Which was my original point.
Keep it fun, that's all that really matters in the end.
03-29-2015, 05:39 PM
Tech Adept
[QUOTE=Wildcat1971;13931359]I am playing with 25-0 on high bite. you could also play with the +3mm trailing. stiffer rear springs. locally we have been going to really stiff springs for 17.5 orange fronts and yellow rears. Also, I went back to gulwings with the stiff springs.[/QUOT
When you changed back to gull wing was it the b5m's and what shock tower did you use?
When you changed back to gull wing was it the b5m's and what shock tower did you use?
03-29-2015, 06:58 PM
Mm tower in the front. Rm rear arms
03-29-2015, 07:57 PM
I run that 160T at 7.4 volts and it works great. I just bought a used B5M for my wife to play with to see if she wants to try a novice race and I dropped a Savox 1251 in it. I had it sitting in a drawer so decided to get some use from it. Seems to be working fine but it isn't nearly as strong, fast, smooth or quiet as the Protek.
03-29-2015, 07:58 PM
03-29-2015, 08:12 PM
Tech Adept
Did you use the b5m gull wings and b5 shock tower?
03-29-2015, 09:05 PM
Setup advice straight out of the F main
03-29-2015, 09:14 PM
Ok for you guys that have ACTUALLY done all the lightweight mods(ie pucks,3 gear,chassis swap,etc) what are you seeing for lap time differences between the box stock car and the lightweight setup. I only have titanium screws and 3 gear and I gained maybe 2 tenths but I dropped 50degrees or more of heat
03-29-2015, 09:15 PM
03-30-2015, 05:14 AM
If you find the tuning advice to be inaccurate please feel free to correct it with what you find to be good advice. If you can't be part of a positive solution DON'T POST! 98% of us are sick of the crap here. Be a part of the solution, not the problem.
03-30-2015, 05:30 AM