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Old 02-18-2016, 12:28 PM   #18421
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Negative, both are out of stock with a late Feb anticipated restock.
If discontinued it would say so.
Both my distributors websites say discontinued. There still may be kits out there but I assure you they're not making them. But, if you believe something else, this is America and you are entitled to have your own opinions and dreams although that does not mean that those opinions & dreams are rooted in reality. I was just trying to be informative. Its not worth arguing about.

On another note, I was not aware that they had a CE conversion kit. I'll have to look for that. There are times when certain specialty items are only available through the larger vendors like AMain. The best example I could use is the Associated Electronics Special Edition Kicker Bluetooth speaker. I think AMain was the only place that had those.

I don't have any special insight into what AE is doing but I would imagine that they are working on a B5 series update and a new 4 wheel buggy. After the whole Centro debacle I never buy any AE stuff that they start blowing out. They drastically dropped the regular B5M price 4 or 5 months ago....by $30-40 a kit.

Although I'm now running Xray too, I love the B5 series cars and look forward to buying almost anything new that comes out. I think the major manufactures failed to realize that by making the current generation of cars so durable they would be making less $ on parts. They now need to sell updates to make up for the lost parts revenue. Think about it, what have you really broken on your B5M? I think the only parts I've broken are arms. I've worn out a bunch of stuff and bent a few things but I can't say that I've broken a lot of stuff. Its one of those subtle things that people do not think about but racing itself has changed because DNF'ing is much less common than it was 5 years ago. My B4s broke all sorts of stuff all the time....arms, towers, even the later chassis snapped. That is no longer the case.
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Not quite sure on your math....but....the lite chassis saves about 26g from the standard chassis.
Well his car weighs 1650 and mine weighs 1460, so 190 gram difference between lite and CE? I guess the tranny, shocks, etc... Add up to the rest then.
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The question posed was about the $89 B5M to B5MCE kit, not the individual B5M or B5MCE kits. I was trying to get an idea if tower or amain would actually get these kits in or will the kit only be sold through team associated's website.
I don't think they are making these. I've never seen this kit. Its quite a bargain. What's interesting is that it includes the Factory Team Bearing kit which has been discontinued for a while. In case anybody is looking for one, the part # is ASC90002C. You can still buy the kit direct from AE here: https://www.teamassociated.com/parts...s&query=90002c
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Well his car weighs 1650 and mine weighs 1460, so 190 gram difference between lite and CE? I guess the tranny, shocks, etc... Add up to the rest then.
When you guys weigh those 2 cars do they have the same electronics, mods, tires, and batteries? The Lite, I believe, was 75 grams lighter than the regular B5M. A CE should not weigh 75 grams more as it has all the same stuff as the Lite other than the chassis....I'm just saying. It would be easy to gain well over 100g just in the lipo. THen, if one car had regular 2.2 wheels/tires and the other 2.4s....the 2.4s average about 10g lighter per wheel/tire, so there's another 40g. How about the servos? A low profile could save you 20g maybe? You could go on and on....aluminum wheel nuts- 6g....pucks! I went nuts with the scale last year.
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When you guys weigh those 2 cars do they have the same mods, tires, and batteries? The Lite, I believe, was 75 grams lighter than the regular B5M. A CE should not weigh 75 grams more as it has all the same stuff as the Lite other than the chassis....I'm just saying.
I totally agree, which is why I questioned it. Seemed like a huge difference and I was trying to figure out what may have attributed it. So the general consensus is the CE and lite are about 75 gram different?
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I totally agree, which is why I questioned it. Seemed like a huge difference and I was trying to figure out what may have attributed it. So the general consensus is the CE and lite are about 75 gram different?
I think Matt was 100% right. They should be 26 grams apart....lets say the Kashima junk on the shocks adds a touch of weight. So 30g difference maybe?
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I totally agree, which is why I questioned it. Seemed like a huge difference and I was trying to figure out what may have attributed it. So the general consensus is the CE and lite are about 75 gram different?
The lite was advertised as ~75g lighter than the original B5m. Mainly because of the chassis, 3 gear trans & titanium turnbuckles. The CE includes all those as options...So if you were to build a CE with the 3 gear it would be roughly ~25-30g heavier than the Lite kit.
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I totally agree, which is why I questioned it. Seemed like a huge difference and I was trying to figure out what may have attributed it. So the general consensus is the CE and lite are about 75 gram different?
I believe AE states the Lite is 75 grams lighter than the original B5M kit, not the CE. I bet a chunk of that comes from the 3 gear transmission, which the CE also has.

I bet the CE doesn't weight much more than the Lite apart from the 26g chassis difference.
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The 1650 figure I got was with my car race-ready with the battery and body attached. And that's just a rough guess since I can't remember exactly. The most significant weight-saving changes I've made since then was installing a slipper eliminator using a lightened spur gear and replacing my old, heavy DE10 ESC with the new much lighter Reedy 800z. I'm sitting at 1605g right now.
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The 1650 figure I got was with my car race-ready with the battery and body attached. And that's just a rough guess since I can't remember exactly. The most significant weight-saving changes I've made since then was installing a slipper eliminator using a lightened spur gear and replacing my old, heavy DE10 ESC with the new much lighter Reedy 800z. I'm sitting at 1605g right now.
I'm at 1460 with shorty 4200 mah battery, shorty servo, body, etc... Thinking I might need brass parts on the front or a full size servo to get over 1500
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The 1650 figure I got was with my car race-ready with the battery and body attached. And that's just a rough guess since I can't remember exactly. The most significant weight-saving changes I've made since then was installing a slipper eliminator using a lightened spur gear and replacing my old, heavy DE10 ESC with the new much lighter Reedy 800z. I'm sitting at 1605g right now.
Is the slipper eliminator that exotek blue aluminum one? And how does it work for stock and mod because I switch between a reedy m3 17.5 and M3 7.5
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a slipper eliminator is pretty much 17.5 only. I've run a 13.5 with one on super high grip but it likely wont work for you w/ a 7.5. That sounds like a bad idea.
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I'm at 1460 with shorty 4200 mah battery, shorty servo, body, etc... Thinking I might need brass parts on the front or a full size servo to get over 1500
Wow, wish mine was that light! Not sure where all the extra weight on mine could be coming from.. I have a 4500 shorty and a full size servo, but wouldn't think they would make that much of a difference. I even have 2.4 tires. I'm hoping titanium screws and a lightened pinion will help bring mine down closer to 1500.

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Is the slipper eliminator that exotek blue aluminum one? And how does it work for stock and mod because I switch between a reedy m3 17.5 and M3 7.5
Yup, the exotek is what I have and I like it but I only run stock. Probably wouldn't risk running without a slipper in mod, especially below 13.5. Weight is not an issue in mod anyway.
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Just an FYI, I didn't even realize Associated had a "CE Conversion Kit" until I read about it in this thread this morning. As others have already noted, all sellers showed these as out of stock, but I went ahead with a backorder at AMain anyway. I just recieved a shipping notification, so apparently they do have them - or maybe Associated is shipping them direct when an order comes through?
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Just an FYI, I didn't even realize Associated had a "CE Conversion Kit" until I read about it in this thread this morning. As others have already noted, all sellers showed these as out of stock, but I went ahead with a backorder at AMain anyway. I just recieved a shipping notification, so apparently they do have them - or maybe Associated is shipping them direct when an order comes through?
It's showing in stock limited quantities available right now at amain.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/rc-cars-...90002c/p486628
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