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Old 12-21-2015, 04:13 PM   #17341
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Anyone running machined pistons 3 hole 1.4 32.5 weight up front and 2 hole 1.6 30 wt in rear on high bite clay? Worn dirtwebs work well on are track.. Im struggling to find speed with the car. I see that some people are switching the pistons the opposite way i have them. Balance is not terrible...
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Anyone running machined pistons 3 hole 1.4 32.5 weight up front and 2 hole 1.6 30 wt in rear on high bite clay? Worn dirtwebs work well on are track.. Im struggling to find speed with the car. I see that some people are switching the pistons the opposite way i have them. Balance is not terrible...
Rest of the setup is factory lite.
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Old 12-21-2015, 05:04 PM   #17343
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Anyone running machined pistons 3 hole 1.4 32.5 weight up front and 2 hole 1.6 30 wt in rear on high bite clay? Worn dirtwebs work well on are track.. Im struggling to find speed with the car. I see that some people are switching the pistons the opposite way i have them. Balance is not terrible...
Yes I have. 3x1.4 have less pack but respond quickly to fluid changes.

Try 35wt 3x1.4 & 32.5wt with 1.6flat and youll find a similar feel.

Unless in low grip I dont like 3x1.4 in the rear
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I also think that one of the other posters has misinterpreted roll center. Roll center is all about the angle of the link. In most cases if you lower the inside you'd be lowering the roll center by reducing the angle of the rear link. we can argue about it all day but roll center is really all about the link angle....a longer link, more roll, reduces the angle of the link....more traction longer link. Less traction, shorter link, typically steeper link angle, higher roll center. Maybe I have it backwards, but I doubt it, regardless....I'm willing put myself out there for everyone to criticize.
No criticism necessary. Always a good debate.

Lower inner link, in the case of the B5, in fact raises the roll center. But, you are absolutely correct about roll center being controlled by the link angle. I always think of longer links making an impact toward lower camber gain, and slower change of the roll center through the suspension motion. RC Crew Chief is a much better expert than me as to the relative differences (inner link vs link length).

Whenever I get lost, I always refer back to these posts. Have never let me down.

Understanding and Tuning Roll Center

The "OFFICIAL" Camber Link/Roll Center Debate Thread

"Razathorn" in fact chimes in on this B5M thread (Official Team Associated RC10 B5m Mid-Motor Thread) stating how he likes the 1/2 hole longer rear link position. Says it's more stable, and gives a more linear rotation feel.

EDIT: Much better discussion than I've provided (B5M specific) here:

Official Team Associated RC10 B5m Mid-Motor Thread

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Old 12-21-2015, 05:29 PM   #17345
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Yes I have. 3x1.4 have less pack but respond quickly to fluid changes.

Try 35wt 3x1.4 & 32.5wt with 1.6flat and youll find a similar feel.

Unless in low grip I dont like 3x1.4 in the rear
So stay with my current setup and just go up in oil?
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Old 12-21-2015, 05:45 PM   #17346
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So stay with my current setup and just go up in oil?
Try it first.

What are you looking for or wanting the car to do?
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don't know if this has been asked but quick question, building the new CE kit, they say run the rear motor rear arms on the setup sheet but they arent included in the kit? is this correct?? the kits only comes with the regular MM arms, both sets of front arms are included but not the RM rear arms.
The CE comes with MM rear arms. At least mine did. If the kit included the RM rear arms there would have been a mention of this in the included supplement manual. They should have been included in the kit though, because it's shown in the recommended set-up sheet. It also comes with a Factory Lite decal sheet? Weird...
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Old 12-21-2015, 06:12 PM   #17348
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Try it first.

What are you looking for or wanting the car to do?
Its pretty neutral. Feels a little edgy on corner exit. Pushes like a 2wd buggy on power. Just having a hard time getting the power down as fast as others.
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Old 12-21-2015, 06:27 PM   #17349
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Its pretty neutral. Feels a little edgy on corner exit. Pushes like a 2wd buggy on power. Just having a hard time getting the power down as fast as others.
Try 3mm trail with standard ackerman.

Use long rear link, stock hubs 2hole inserts using the outer hole. If youre running aftermarket hubs run anextra 0.5mm under the stud.

Measuring between the shoulders of ball cups should be approx 27mm iirc
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The CE comes with MM rear arms. At least mine did. If the kit included the RM rear arms there would have been a mention of this in the included supplement manual. They should have been included in the kit though, because it's shown in the recommended set-up sheet. It also comes with a Factory Lite decal sheet? Weird...
Mine came with mm arms too, weird. didnt even think that they were not rm arms.
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anyone run one of the raptor bodies?

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I wish I had seen this body before I bought my last one...gonna have to get one of these
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Old 12-22-2015, 05:55 AM   #17352
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Anyone running machined pistons 3 hole 1.4 32.5 weight up front and 2 hole 1.6 30 wt in rear on high bite clay? Worn dirtwebs work well on are track.. Im struggling to find speed with the car. I see that some people are switching the pistons the opposite way i have them. Balance is not terrible...
So the reason people are switching the pistons is because of the way the 3 gear works, it levels out the chassis while driving so it actually makes the rear end ride higher then with a 4 gear which is why people are wanting 3 hole in tha back for more traction and 2 hole in the front to tame down the steering.
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Installed one if my 3gear lcg trans cases in my sons car for more testing.
He decided he wanted it blue, so we did a quick rattle can job on it before installing.
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Now, THAT is cool! well done!
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I'm going to try for a lower ride height setup for super high grip office carpet this week. Has anybody found a good roll center setup for ride heights around 16 mm? I assume that The 1/2 hole longer at the rear hub would be the right direction and I'm thinking about going up to the +2 position on the inside rear ball stud and adding 3mm limiters in the shocks.
I am running 18 mm ride height with stock shock limiters and I have been struggling with traction roll at the end of the straight. The Yokomo's with low ride height turn right inside of me and carry more corner speed.
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