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Old 09-21-2013, 02:03 PM
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Default Is there a technique to correct a swelled/puffed lipo?

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I tried to search but didn't find anything other than to throw them away. But, has anyone found a way to un-puff a lipo? Like, maybe cycling a certain way, etc. Any assistance is appreciated.
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puffed is puffed, simple as that. If after a run it comes down any, great. But if not there's no magic charging method to do so. You can either decide to take your chances and continue to use the pack or "recycle" it to an unknowing eBay bidder..

once you puff, you never go back..
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Jkas

No promises

balance pack at low amp rate , less then 2 amp..
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^^^

that will NOT bring the puffing down like you asked. It would simply let you charge the pack without puffing it any further at best.
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Stab with a screwdriver













Then buy a new one.
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My revtechs deformed my case but I can squish it and it just feels like air so I assume they swell during the run when hot but the cells go back to normal and the case is stuck deformed
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Originally Posted by XRated SCT
My revtechs deformed my case but I can squish it and it just feels like air so I assume they swell during the run when hot but the cells go back to normal and the case is stuck deformed
The "air" is likely hydrogen trapped in the battery cells. You're playing with fire (a bad one), literally.
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ok....some battery cases can deform, be it from a puffed lipo that then went down on its own or from simple everyday heat exposure. If you squeeze the case and it's "hard", the cells are puffed. If you can squeeze the case and you can feel a gap before touching the cells inside, likely the case is warped and the cells are fine.

there's really little way to be sure without handling the pack in person..
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Originally Posted by Davidka
The "air" is likely hydrogen trapped in the battery cells. You're playing with fire (a bad one), literally.
So, the plastic "bag" the cell is wrapped in is sealed, and the puff is from an excess discharge of gas in the "bag"? Is that correct? Can a guy - carefully - relieve the excess gas with a pin hole or something and release the built up pressure?
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Originally Posted by Mullet1
Stab with a screwdriver













Then buy a new one.
I know, right? LOL!
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From everything I've heard, on the net and IN PERSON, revetechs are some of the worst packs on the market for puffing.
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Originally Posted by jkas10
So, the plastic "bag" the cell is wrapped in is sealed, and the puff is from an excess discharge of gas in the "bag"? Is that correct? Can a guy - carefully - relieve the excess gas with a pin hole or something and release the built up pressure?
It has been done before

No, it's not particularly safe
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Like Ridley said, you're correct, the puffing comes from the gas. And it's NOT safe to vent the cell or cells on a puffed lipo.
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Originally Posted by racer1812
ok....some battery cases can deform, be it from a puffed lipo that then went down on its own or from simple everyday heat exposure. If you squeeze the case and it's "hard", the cells are puffed. If you can squeeze the case and you can feel a gap before touching the cells inside, likely the case is warped and the cells are fine.

there's really little way to be sure without handling the pack in person..
yea I can squeeze and feel the gap between the case and cells
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Originally Posted by XRated SCT
yea I can squeeze and feel the gap between the case and cells
Then, IMO, that's a case issue and not a puffed cell issue. Left up to you to make the call on what's hidden inside.

a warped case is not an uncommon issue, regardless of brand.
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