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Old 02-17-2014, 12:59 PM   #1201
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MATH RULES! My experience in the RC field is that you really do get what you pay for. Most people who don't believe this just don't have good stuff.
I completely agree. I wasn't complaining about the cost of this car. Another guy said he got a d812 for 350 and I have one and know they are 520 new. Jason made a great point, this car will actually be cheaper in the long run because it won't need $200 worth of upgrades to be durable and competitive.
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:11 PM   #1202
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And yet those expensive brands have how many total championships?

There are certainly some products out there that are indeed superior in certain aspects but how may of those have storied histories littered with championships across their portfolio of vehicles?

VERY few. So more expensive and/or more precise doesn't necessarily translate to better. Perhaps the 413 is different, perhaps not. All we know right now is that it has looked strong every time out, and I hope that's an indication of how good the car is.
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:16 PM   #1203
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Oh man, we're getting closer!

http://www.wheelspinmodels.co.uk/i/213556/

and before anyone get their undies in a bunch, Wheelspin models sells the d812 nitro buggy for $720 (429.00), where it's list price is $520 state side (Holy mark up!)
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Someone from the UK pointed out that they have a 20% tax (import kind of tax or something) added on to the price so online prices in the UK are not a good gauge for a price point here in the US.
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:34 PM   #1205
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I'll throw in my 2 cents, US street price will be around $465

This how got my number, MSRP on D812 $1050, tower list it at $520 (roughly 50% msrp)

wheel spin is selling D812 for $720
720/1050 = 0.685 (68% of MSRP)
wheelspin list d413 for $638.
638/.68 = $930 (msrp)
930*.50(tower 50% off retail) = $465

Who knows, I could be way off.
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If the update from the d4 to the d413 is as good as the change from d8 to d812 is then it will be worth every dollar.
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Might be a cooler name if they call it the D414
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I'll throw in my 2 cents, US street price will be around $465

This how got my number, MSRP on D812 $1050, tower list it at $520 (roughly 50% msrp)

wheel spin is selling D812 for $720
720/1050 = 0.685 (68% of MSRP)
wheelspin list d413 for $638.
638/.68 = $930 (msrp)
930*.50(tower 50% off retail) = $465

Who knows, I could be way off.
This is what you do while you're snowed in? Math?
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This is what you do while you're snowed in? Math?
Math rules! (I couldn't pass up an excuse to say this twice in a single day in one forum)
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And yet those expensive brands have how many total championships?

There are certainly some products out there that are indeed superior in certain aspects but how may of those have storied histories littered with championships across their portfolio of vehicles?

VERY few. So more expensive and/or more precise doesn't necessarily translate to better. Perhaps the 413 is different, perhaps not. All we know right now is that it has looked strong every time out, and I hope that's an indication of how good the car is.
The original comment didn't mean that a 500 car would beat a 450 dollar car, it was intended for greater extremes. Success doesn't have to be measured in championships, its a very big deal to just make a competitive buggy that has a chance at winning the worlds and it can't be done for 50 bucks.
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:13 PM   #1212
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LOL! without math we would not be in this hobby, unless it was rubber band powered like a (TLR 22-4)
all and all fun on here,electrics for me are on their way for this build,
now what diff fluid do you guys prefer,
during my 811 build it seemed most were using Mugen Seiki so i was
just curious?
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:21 AM   #1213
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Here is Korea.

TLR 22-4
618,000 won = $579.95

yokomo bmax-3
598,000 won = $561.19

xray xb-4 2014
658,000 won = $617.49


Hotbodies D413
preorder 583,000 won = $547.11
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Old 02-19-2014, 12:18 AM   #1214
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First of all this is a very very interesting car and I am looking forward to its launch...
A question to Terrence, how will the arms hinge pins holders hold?
My terminology might not be accurate but I mean the pieces where the arms hinge pins are screwed to the bulkheads.
My beloved Cat SX3 is particularly weak at that point, very often bending screws, and I see with great interest that this magnificent new car has more or less the same concept. Appreciate your input on testing done so far..
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Old 02-19-2014, 12:20 AM   #1215
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not "Terrence"
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