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Old 09-25-2015, 05:24 AM   #9901
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When someone talks about adjusting droop, Im assuming that this can only be done by lengthening/shortening the shock ends?
I did some experiments with the droop in the last few weeks.
Lengthening/shortening the shock ends is the only way I know at least I can see so far.

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Old 09-25-2015, 05:34 AM   #9902
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Unscrewing or screwing on the shock ends is the easy way to adjust. They even put some lines on the shock shaft so you can be pretty consistent with the settings. You could also put spacers on the shaft under the piston if you want to reduce droop. It makes it a pain to adjust because you need to disassemble the shock to do it, but it's how most 1/10 cars adjust droop.

I wish more cars would get the 1/8 buggy style droop screws. Being able to quickly and easily adjust droop is such a powerful tuning tool.
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Old 09-25-2015, 07:03 AM   #9903
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Yeah, it dawned on me after I posted that you could limit droop with internal spacers. Funny, I 've never played around with droop much. On my ebuggy, I just tighten the screw until the shock end is aligned with the standoff then give it another 1/2 turn. That way I know I have full droop but am not putting any strain on the shock ends or pistons.

So back on topic as it relates to the D413, can anyone explain layperson terms what the benifit of running less droop in the rear is or what kind of change I can expect?
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Old 09-25-2015, 09:41 AM   #9904
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The more droop you have , the more weight is allowed to transfer .

The less droop you have , less weight is allowed to transfer.

A car with more droop tends to jump or land better . It will Also handle bumps better and because of the weight transfer fore and aft it should be better on low traction tracks.

A car with less droop responds more quickly , is more stable , and is better suited to higher grip and smoother surfaces.

My track starts a dusty mess and everyone is running lots of droop. When the mains come around and the brown line of grippiness has formed , people are taking droop out .

It is a significant part of the tuning equation.
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Old 09-25-2015, 11:55 AM   #9905
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The more droop you have , the more weight is allowed to transfer .

The less droop you have , less weight is allowed to transfer.

A car with more droop tends to jump or land better . It will Also handle bumps better and because of the weight transfer fore and aft it should be better on low traction tracks.

A car with less droop responds more quickly , is more stable , and is better suited to higher grip and smoother surfaces.

My track starts a dusty mess and everyone is running lots of droop. When the mains come around and the brown line of grippiness has formed , people are taking droop out .

It is a significant part of the tuning equation.
Thanks, sounds like I'm going to have to experiment a little more with this aspect of the tuning. Still amazes me how 1 or 2 mm of adjustment can make such a difference in these little buggies
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Old 09-28-2015, 09:34 AM   #9906
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Has anyone tried the Factory RC C/F rear camber link plate? Just wondering how it stands up to abuse
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Old 09-28-2015, 09:52 AM   #9907
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Has anyone tried the Factory RC C/F rear camber link plate? Just wondering how it stands up to abuse
Been running one for a while now. No issues at all.
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Old 09-28-2015, 12:40 PM   #9908
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Been running one for a while now. No issues at all.
Thanks. Ordered this, and titanium screw set and turnbuckles. Not too concerned about weight, I'm just bored and need something to do.
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Ditto on the factory RC piece it's good stuff!!!
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Been running one for a while now. No issues at all.
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Same here all good
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I have a question .... I am going 5.5t and I am wondering if thinner center diff fluid leads to higher temps at the motor ? I can see it in my mind doing that , but I am really not that smart . I have 50k in my center diff now , and I like the way the car drives.

Anyone test this ? It seems like the sort of thing someone has looked into
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I have a question .... I am going 5.5t and I am wondering if thinner center diff fluid leads to higher temps at the motor ? I can see it in my mind doing that , but I am really not that smart . I have 50k in my center diff now , and I like the way the car drives.

Anyone test this ? It seems like the sort of thing someone has looked into
I run a 5.5 with 100k center and 19t. I'm just under 160k after long fast run. 21t I was 180 I love 100k in this car so much I could not go down again I just change gear. Now your question, in my mbx7r eco I tried 50k center and I hit 220 temp. I've gone all way down to 7k center and I was 190. Dropped a gear and down to 175. So yes higher diff in my experience does cause higher temp but can be corrected through gearing.
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What wheels can I run with this car?
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Old 09-29-2015, 06:16 PM   #9915
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What wheels can I run with this car?
I use Losi 22-4 wheels, but there's nothing wrong with the stock ones
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