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Old 04-29-2015, 07:51 AM   #9016
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HB prototype. He told me at cactus he runs the proto everywhere. But, if you are running high bite and dont have the proto, he felt the avid was the best. He suggested I use the avid for cactus, since the prototype chassis was not out. This was from his mouth, not some info a guy who knows a guy.
I just wish I could get a clear explanation of why the Avid chassis would be better than stock for high grip. From what I've read, it doesn't really do anything other than add weight and give options for adding even more weight, which I don't need.

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Old 04-29-2015, 07:55 AM   #9017
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I just wish I could get a clear explanation of why the Avid chassis would be better than stock for high grip. From what I've read, it doesn't really do anything other than add weight and give options for adding even more weight, which I don't need.

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Lower CG and less flex.
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:04 AM   #9018
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I don't think that's it Wildcat.

Increased wheelbase is to make cars less twitchy and to calm them while in the air and through rough rhythm sections.
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Avid and stock chassis share the same wheelbase. Wildcat is right add weight at the lowest location possible that what the avid adds.
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:47 AM   #9020
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Sorry for some reason I confused 2 E-mails and thought the inquiry was on the Schelle Chassis.

Wildcat's info is spot on.
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Typical rule of thumb I use for center diff.

Low-Medium Traction: 60k center fluid

Medium/High- High Traction: 100k center fluid.
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Old 04-29-2015, 02:47 PM   #9022
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Lower CG and less flex.
I can buy the less flex part. But the way I read the benefits listed by Avid, the lower CG just comes from the added weight of the chassis. It doesn't look like motor, battery or anything else of significant weight actually sits lower. So I'm just not seeing how it improves anything if I already have more than enough grip on both ends.

But if Tessman says it's better on high grip, who am I to argue about it.

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Old 04-29-2015, 03:06 PM   #9023
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What it says is that it allows for even lower placement for the ballast weight.
At these minuscule scales, i highly doubt it makes much, if any difference.

Now, if like the DEX410's rear Brass Skid Plate it actually places weight somewhere else on the car, and in the case of the 410 it makes a significant change. Taking what a professional sponsored driver says about products he is paid to promote… That's something people need to evaluate and decide on for themselves. A driver of Ty's caliber can take a competing product they've never driven and make it look like a cakewalk.
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I can buy the less flex part. But the way I read the benefits listed by Avid, the lower CG just comes from the added weight of the chassis. It doesn't look like motor, battery or anything else of significant weight actually sits lower. So I'm just not seeing how it improves anything if I already have more than enough grip on both ends.

But if Tessman says it's better on high grip, who am I to argue about it.

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plus the tunable ballast.
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https://youtu.be/3LG-W8eY4Fo

This is a quick little video I did. Just got my schelle chassis and wanted to show how and what it comes with.
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Ready for Friday racing. Just have to throw a quick two tone paint job on the kit body and glue some new tires. The Schelle D413 is ready for action.
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After 2 months all of the arms are loose on the inner shafts, as if the hole diameter are wearing larger. Whats yours like? Time for new arms?
I am finally done with these loose arms so I called HB Customer Service and they are sending a replacement set.. Thats nice.
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I am finally done with these loose arms so I called HB Customer Service and they are sending a replacement set.. Thats nice.
How often do you crash. If you need to be marshaled more than a couple times a race day, your crashing is probably stretching the a arm holes, way more than they are wearing. Unless you race on a track that has a lot of dust.
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[QUOTE=Mantis Toboggan;13986282]How often do you crash. If you need to be marshaled more than a couple times a race day, your crashing is probably stretching the a arm holes, way more than they are wearing. Unless you race on a track that has a lot of dust.[/QUOTE

I crash a lot but have gotten good and landing on my wheels. Little throttle, little break, twist right, twist left .after couple really nice cartwheels and back flip it looks really cool to land it like Olympic gymnastics team.oh I just replaced my worn front arms.
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How often do you crash. If you need to be marshaled more than a couple times a race day, your crashing is probably stretching the a arm holes, way more than they are wearing. Unless you race on a track that has a lot of dust.
I don't crash a lot and this isn't the first time I have encountered soft plastic with this kit. HB has been really good replacing those parts. Its shimmed frequently. Thanks
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