Hot Bodies D413 1/10 4WD Buggy
#6424
Amazing build!
Have just built the kit and I was amazed at many of the details of the car. I think Torrance and his team have hit it on the nails. Simply genious!
The build was straightforward except after the second time (checking mesh) screwed a few screws in too much in the center diff. Have been used to feel by hand if its snug enough but being so small screws I almost screwed one through before checking visually what's going on. Oh well, had a spare. Also the small diff gears were a little rough. The diffs themselves were super smooth though, just been spoiled with Tekno gears.
Has someone just shortened the steering rack bushings a little or what's the prefered way to get a little slop away?
Also a tip. Screw in the plastic tower first before the wing holder.
How did you guys get get the clip on the front/rear gear outdrive on? I just forced it in with a flat driver. Almost lost the springy bastard though.
The build was straightforward except after the second time (checking mesh) screwed a few screws in too much in the center diff. Have been used to feel by hand if its snug enough but being so small screws I almost screwed one through before checking visually what's going on. Oh well, had a spare. Also the small diff gears were a little rough. The diffs themselves were super smooth though, just been spoiled with Tekno gears.
Has someone just shortened the steering rack bushings a little or what's the prefered way to get a little slop away?
Also a tip. Screw in the plastic tower first before the wing holder.
How did you guys get get the clip on the front/rear gear outdrive on? I just forced it in with a flat driver. Almost lost the springy bastard though.
#6425
Tech Adept
Hi Torrance,
How big a shipment of the shock caps did you guys get? Will there be enough to go around?
How big a shipment of the shock caps did you guys get? Will there be enough to go around?
#6427
Is anyone running a 13.5 trying to figure out a good starting point for gearing on a tight smaller track with lots of jumps
#6428
what do you mean by forward arm sweep or how do you do that
#6430
Tech Addict
iTrader: (23)
Had my first time out with this buggy today and definitely liked it. I have a few questions...
I have the Reedy setup on this car except for the carbon arm inserts (which I'll have soon) and I have the stock box springs (these are softer than the Xgear springs Ty is running??).
Everything is pretty good except longer sweeping corners. On constant throttle it's pushing slightly. If I increase the power to get the back end rotating more, if feels super loose and comes around unpredictably. Any suggestions on increasing on-power turning while reducing the snappiness of the rear stepping out too quickly? The rear tires I'm using came off my mod buggy and they're hooked up on that car. I don't think it's a case of wrong tires.
I have the shock shaft lengths exactly as described in the setup sheets. However, the front droop is pretty extreme. The springs don't even touch the collars at full extension. Am I missing something or is this how it's supposed to be?
Thanks for any help. I'm definitely looking forward to getting this car more dialed in.
I have the Reedy setup on this car except for the carbon arm inserts (which I'll have soon) and I have the stock box springs (these are softer than the Xgear springs Ty is running??).
Everything is pretty good except longer sweeping corners. On constant throttle it's pushing slightly. If I increase the power to get the back end rotating more, if feels super loose and comes around unpredictably. Any suggestions on increasing on-power turning while reducing the snappiness of the rear stepping out too quickly? The rear tires I'm using came off my mod buggy and they're hooked up on that car. I don't think it's a case of wrong tires.
I have the shock shaft lengths exactly as described in the setup sheets. However, the front droop is pretty extreme. The springs don't even touch the collars at full extension. Am I missing something or is this how it's supposed to be?
Thanks for any help. I'm definitely looking forward to getting this car more dialed in.
#6432
Hi Dog Runner,
I am struggling with the SAME exact problem as you and running the same setup (Tessman Reedy with stock springs) on high bite smooth clay. (Trackside Hobbies WI) I haven't quite eliminated the slight onpower push with snap around at end yet, but I did try a 3 hole 1.3 and it somehow helped smooth out the steering in the sweeper and eliminated the push slightly, not to mention it jumps better. I got the idea after looking at Josh Close's setup. http://www.petitrc.com/setup/hotbodi...bbies20140608/
The kit comes with a 4 hole 1.3 and I just glued a toothpick in one of the holes and filed the ends off. Worked like a charm.
I have not played around with springs but my LHS stocks TLR springs which work with the D413.
For me, I was running too much drag-break so that snap around at the end of the sweeper was reduced once I reduced my drag break.
The biggest change for me by far though was ride height and tires. I changed the ride height to 20mm F/R and went with the AKA Typos and what a difference that made.. huge.. would not have thought it. So thats what im sticking with for now. Car is getting faster.
Compare the different setups and see what stuff people are keeping the same and what people are changing, those are clues as to where the car needs more tweaks: http://www.petitrc.com/setup/hotbodi...cloneD413.html
Next up im trying the RC Shocks dual stage pistons (1.6 in front 1.7 in rear) as well as xgear springs. I will keep you updated.
I am struggling with the SAME exact problem as you and running the same setup (Tessman Reedy with stock springs) on high bite smooth clay. (Trackside Hobbies WI) I haven't quite eliminated the slight onpower push with snap around at end yet, but I did try a 3 hole 1.3 and it somehow helped smooth out the steering in the sweeper and eliminated the push slightly, not to mention it jumps better. I got the idea after looking at Josh Close's setup. http://www.petitrc.com/setup/hotbodi...bbies20140608/
The kit comes with a 4 hole 1.3 and I just glued a toothpick in one of the holes and filed the ends off. Worked like a charm.
I have not played around with springs but my LHS stocks TLR springs which work with the D413.
For me, I was running too much drag-break so that snap around at the end of the sweeper was reduced once I reduced my drag break.
The biggest change for me by far though was ride height and tires. I changed the ride height to 20mm F/R and went with the AKA Typos and what a difference that made.. huge.. would not have thought it. So thats what im sticking with for now. Car is getting faster.
Compare the different setups and see what stuff people are keeping the same and what people are changing, those are clues as to where the car needs more tweaks: http://www.petitrc.com/setup/hotbodi...cloneD413.html
Next up im trying the RC Shocks dual stage pistons (1.6 in front 1.7 in rear) as well as xgear springs. I will keep you updated.
#6433
From front page of this thread:
Motor 4wd FDR D413 pinion
4.5 12 19.8
5.5 11 21.7
6.5 10 23.8
7.5 9.5 25.1
8.5 9 26.5
10.5 8 29.8
13.5 7 34.0
17.5 6 39.7
Motor 4wd FDR D413 pinion
4.5 12 19.8
5.5 11 21.7
6.5 10 23.8
7.5 9.5 25.1
8.5 9 26.5
10.5 8 29.8
13.5 7 34.0
17.5 6 39.7
#6434
Tech Champion
iTrader: (4)
The front hinge pin holder on the back of the arm has a washer behind it, if you increase the thickness of the washer it adds forward arm sweep.
I put more kick-up in the front to help on power steering, I swapped out the 3dot hinge pin holder for the 2 dot in the front.
Paul
Had my first time out with this buggy today and definitely liked it. I have a few questions...
I have the Reedy setup on this car except for the carbon arm inserts (which I'll have soon) and I have the stock box springs (these are softer than the Xgear springs Ty is running??).
Everything is pretty good except longer sweeping corners. On constant throttle it's pushing slightly. If I increase the power to get the back end rotating more, if feels super loose and comes around unpredictably. Any suggestions on increasing on-power turning while reducing the snappiness of the rear stepping out too quickly? The rear tires I'm using came off my mod buggy and they're hooked up on that car. I don't think it's a case of wrong tires.
I have the shock shaft lengths exactly as described in the setup sheets. However, the front droop is pretty extreme. The springs don't even touch the collars at full extension. Am I missing something or is this how it's supposed to be?
Thanks for any help. I'm definitely looking forward to getting this car more dialed in.
I have the Reedy setup on this car except for the carbon arm inserts (which I'll have soon) and I have the stock box springs (these are softer than the Xgear springs Ty is running??).
Everything is pretty good except longer sweeping corners. On constant throttle it's pushing slightly. If I increase the power to get the back end rotating more, if feels super loose and comes around unpredictably. Any suggestions on increasing on-power turning while reducing the snappiness of the rear stepping out too quickly? The rear tires I'm using came off my mod buggy and they're hooked up on that car. I don't think it's a case of wrong tires.
I have the shock shaft lengths exactly as described in the setup sheets. However, the front droop is pretty extreme. The springs don't even touch the collars at full extension. Am I missing something or is this how it's supposed to be?
Thanks for any help. I'm definitely looking forward to getting this car more dialed in.
Paul