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Old 10-16-2013, 09:13 AM   #601
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Oh man! Every week another gem! What other awesome design features have not been mentioned and will pop their heads up? Seems like there have been a couple that didn't surface until someone asks the question of I hope this... and Torrance comes in and says... oh yeah, we got that!

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Old 10-16-2013, 09:16 AM   #602
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Really like the droop marks, great idea.

One question though, looking at the tech specs of the D413 I've noticed it's wheelbase is 5-7mm shorter than the other manufactures current / upcoming 4wd cars.

Any specific reason why?
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:17 AM   #603
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GENIUS!!
Brilliant.

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Old 10-16-2013, 11:25 AM   #604
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This car just keeps getting better and better.

Torrance, I am curious what your background in design is? How did you get started designing these cars? How did you end up at Hotbodies.
He probably worked for NASA designing a spaceship that travels at light speed, but was late for work once so they let him go.
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He probably worked for NASA designing a spaceship that travels at light speed, but was late for work once so they let him go.
you mean there will be an optional upgrade to make D413 work like this?
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lol that's crazy. But you have to be a bit crazy to be innovative.

that link with girl in camaro. nice
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Old 10-16-2013, 02:25 PM   #607
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They had what appeared to be a final kit at IIC in Vegas during the team meet and greet. Car feels stout, like you can go big on the triple every time and feel confident it won't break. From the suspension, to the drive train to the littlest details, the car just looked and felt amazing. Have a feeling this car could light the 4wd fire for many who are scared off by the weak glass 4wd's out there currently.
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He probably worked for NASA designing a spaceship that travels at light speed, but was late for work once so they let him go.
More like the government got their head stuck up you know where and funding was cut.......

Looks like a unique and well thought out machine. Simple where it needs to be, no fancy fluff.
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Droop screws are not really practical for 1/10 buggies. The hinge pin heights we run are so low that there's no room for droop tabs on the chassis. If you see a 1/10 buggy equipped with droop screws and droop tabs, chances are their hinge pin heights or roll centers are too high.

To adjust droop on the D413 I designed shock eyelets that have a deeper thread bore and shock shafts with droop indicators. So basically you use the 'screw the eyelet in-and-out' method but I guess it's no longer 'cheating' because it was intentionally designed this way? With the deep thread bore on the eyelet you don't run out of thread engagement even when you back it out for full droop. Each line on the shaft is 1mm and the thread pitch is 0.5mm per turn.

If you like to run very little droop you can screw the eyelet all the way to the top line but if that's still not enough then you can always add limiters inside.

So obvious it's amazing nobody ever though of this before! No more deadly calipers near those shafts!

Have to try them on my Kyoshos! :P
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Droop screws are not really practical for 1/10 buggies. The hinge pin heights we run are so low that there's no room for droop tabs on the chassis. If you see a 1/10 buggy equipped with droop screws and droop tabs, chances are their hinge pin heights or roll centers are too high.

To adjust droop on the D413 I designed shock eyelets that have a deeper thread bore and shock shafts with droop indicators. So basically you use the 'screw the eyelet in-and-out' method but I guess it's no longer 'cheating' because it was intentionally designed this way? With the deep thread bore on the eyelet you don't run out of thread engagement even when you back it out for full droop. Each line on the shaft is 1mm and the thread pitch is 0.5mm per turn.

If you like to run very little droop you can screw the eyelet all the way to the top line but if that's still not enough then you can always add limiters inside.

How Bauhaus. I absolutely LOVE this feature. I can never ever really trust that the eyelets are at the same place on each shaft and it bugs me. This is going to be one of those ideas that all the companies copy. I could see some of them laser etching instead of notching the shaft but other than that, everyone will copy this idea.
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How Bauhaus. I absolutely LOVE this feature. I can never ever really trust that the eyelets are at the same place on each shaft and it bugs me. This is going to be one of those ideas that all the companies copy. I could see some of them laser etching instead of notching the shaft but other than that, everyone will copy this idea.
Agreed. Impressive detail.

Also impressed by the reference to Bauhaus. Any other peeps with design degrees?
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Always the simplest things that end up being so handy.
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Agreed. Impressive detail.

Also impressed by the reference to Bauhaus. Any other peeps with design degrees?
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glad y'all like the droop adjustment method. I didn't expect such a positive response. it was born out of necessity - no room for droop tabs and I'm too lazy of a mechanic to be messing with limiters inside the shock.
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How Bauhaus. I absolutely LOVE this feature. I can never ever really trust that the eyelets are at the same place on each shaft and it bugs me. This is going to be one of those ideas that all the companies copy. I could see some of them laser etching instead of notching the shaft but other than that, everyone will copy this idea.
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