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Kyosho ZX6.6 New Parts (* = required to update ZX6 to ZX6.6 platform)


LA359B - Center Mount Set (ZX6.6)*
LA375 - Center Diff. Gear Set(ZX6.6)*
LA375-01 - Center Diff. Gear Case Set(ZX6.6)
LA375-78 - Spur Gear(48P-78T/ZX6.6)
LA376 - Center Drive Shaft (71.5/ZX6.6)*
LA377 - Center Drive Shaft (79.5/ZX6.6)* (x2)
LA378 - Center Drive Shaft (88/ZX6.6)*
LA379 - Joint Cup Cover (ZX6/ZX6.6)*
LAW54B-01 - HD Chassis*
LA355B - Side guard set*
UM713B - Rear Arms (from RB6)*
UM561 - Outer rear hinge pins*
LA236-12B - 1.2mm Front sway bar*
LA351B 4-hole front shock tower*


Options
VVC Blades TFW126
Spare Blades TFW001-01

Manuals

Lazer ZX6.6
Lazer ZX6

After Market Bodies

JConcepts Silencer

Weight Reduction options for 13.5 Class

Chassis:
UMW711B - Carbon composite rear arms
LAW60 - Carbon composite front upper bulkhead
LAW61 - Carbon composite rear upper bulkhead
LAW52 - Carbon composite front chassis brace
LAW53 - Carbon composite rear chassis brace
LA209HB - Carbon composite gear boxes (pinion bearing retainer & upper gearbox half only, lower half not compatible/saves 4.6g total)
Driveline:
LA211B - Plastic drive cups for center drive shafts coming out of front & rear gear boxes (requires drilling two holes for set screws to secure LA379)
TFW001 - Aluminum blade style outdrives (for ball diff/requires TF013)
LA202 - Aluminum pinion shafts (for ball diff)
TFW126 - VVC outdrives (for gear diff - front/rear/center)
TFW008 - VVC cross pins (for gear diff - front/rear/center)
Misc:
LAB06LW - LW Blade body
SK0402 - Ti screw set (Available at Lunsfordracing.com)
PTK-T-2111 - Ti screw set (cheaper, slightly less durable option)
LNS7765 - Ti ball studs
LNS2688 - Ti Turnbuckles
LNS36107 - Ti Turnbuckles (super duty)
W0201H - Hard anodized lower shock balls
1-N3024A-R - Aluminum M3x2.4 nuts (for shock standoffs)
1-N3033NA-R - Aluminum M3x3.3 locknuts

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Old 04-19-2015, 07:55 AM
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Looks like kyosho is coming out with a new chassis for the zx6. It will move the motor forward. I saw a pic in a Japanese website and looking at it I think it will give a future option for a center diff. The milled out area looks a lot bigger. Part number law54
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http://kyoshoshop-online.com/kyosho/...999&ggcd=LAW54
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Originally Posted by chriso138
Ok, so I've driven this buggy 6-7 times. I've yet to get comfortable with it . I'm running the law 50 gear diffs 5k front 3k rear, 40w front and 30w rear shocks, gold front and rear springs. Running tekin rsx and redline gen2 7.5. My issues are the car jumping like garbage , rear end is jumping around , cornering is a joke, I'm breaking knuckles with ease, ball studs bending, rear dog bone doesn't want to stay put, and today I snapped la361 the piece with the ball stud in it. And the bumps teen is crazy even with 2mm spacer..help!
I don't know of to many people using the gear diff on this car. Now I am not saying that is causing everything you are experiencing but if the drive train is not working properly it could cause the car to do these things and thus putting stress on other components.

My suggestion, go back to the ball diffs for now and see if the problems continue. Make sure you didn't bend any shock shafts as well. In addition, don't be afraid to ask someone else to look it over as a second set of eyes to see if there is something that you might have overlooked.
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Originally Posted by Speedychris22
I plan on getting this so I can run the center diff when it becomes available. I will stick with ball diffs for the front and rear. Have a friend who went this route on his B44.3 and it made the car surprisingly good. Still fragile, but it was insanely drivable. That's the other great thing about this car. They don't need to come out with a whole new model to introduce new concepts, they just keep upgrading the car already out. I appreciate that.
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Originally Posted by jpcopeland1
I plan on getting this so I can run the center diff when it becomes available. I will stick with ball diffs for the front and rear. Have a friend who went this route on his B44.3 and it made the car surprisingly good. Still fragile, but it was insanely drivable. That's the other great thing about this car. They don't need to come out with a whole new model to introduce new concepts, they just keep upgrading the car already out. I appreciate that.
Never thought of that, but could def be interesting. I prefer the ball diffs in the car. Can't wait to get the chassis
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Originally Posted by Speedychris22
Never thought of that, but could def be interesting. I prefer the ball diffs in the car. Can't wait to get the chassis
The center diff really smoothies out the drivetrain and saves ball diffs. xB4 owners in the area have done the mod and love it as well.
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Originally Posted by jpcopeland1
The center diff really smoothies out the drivetrain and saves ball diffs. xB4 owners in the area have done the mod and love it as well.
What kind of weight are the using
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I'm running on med bite clay indoor (small technical track with one large jump) and low- med bite outdoor (large fast track with several large jumps )


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what surface are you racing on?
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[QUOTE=Kraig;13967945]I don't know of to many people using the gear diff on this car. Now I am not saying that is causing everything you are experiencing but if the drive train is not working properly it could cause the car to do these things and thus putting stress on other components.

My suggestion, go back to the ball diffs for now and see if the problems continue. Make sure you didn't bend any shock shafts as well. In addition, don't be afraid to ask someone else to look it over as a second set of eyes to see if there is something that you overlooked .

Ya I'm gonna try the ball diffs and see if I can't get a handle on this thing. I was really hoping that the gear diffs would help as I drive my mp9 like a bat outta hell. That and I have next to zero experience with ball diffs. I've had a few people look at my zx6 d they don't see anything built wrong but they trip on the bump steer and how stiff the suspension is. Thanks Kraig
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Originally Posted by Speedychris22
What kind of weight are the using
80k to 100k.
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[QUOTE=chriso138;13968243]
Originally Posted by Kraig
I don't know of to many people using the gear diff on this car. Now I am not saying that is causing everything you are experiencing but if the drive train is not working properly it could cause the car to do these things and thus putting stress on other components.

My suggestion, go back to the ball diffs for now and see if the problems continue. Make sure you didn't bend any shock shafts as well. In addition, don't be afraid to ask someone else to look it over as a second set of eyes to see if there is something that you overlooked .

Ya I'm gonna try the ball diffs and see if I can't get a handle on this thing. I was really hoping that the gear diffs would help as I drive my mp9 like a bat outta hell. That and I have next to zero experience with ball diffs. I've had a few people look at my zx6 d they don't see anything built wrong but they trip on the bump steer and how stiff the suspension is. Thanks Kraig


Chriso138, I was running tebo's surf city setup which had 40wt in the front. The handling was released sketchy. I race on a high traction, clay, small technical track. I went to 35wt oil in the front and it was a lot better.
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[QUOTE=gporta77;13968849]
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Chriso138, I was running tebo's surf city setup which had 40wt in the front. The handling was released sketchy. I race on a high traction, clay, small technical track. I went to 35wt oil in the front and it was a lot better.
What I have found with Tebos high grip setups is that he likes his shock packages pretty heavy. Usually going down a half to a full weight gets me where I need to be.
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Does anyone know which side the bronze shims go ?

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There is no quick answer to that ProfessorX. You will have to use a combination of the silver (thick) and gold (thin) shims to properly shim your diff. You need to pay attention to the mesh with the pinion and the amount of side to side play. Ideally you want a tiny amount of play in the gear mesh (action should still feel smooth), and a snug fit in the gear case with no side to side play so that the gear mesh cannot change on you.
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Originally Posted by Derek_Wood
There is no quick answer to that ProfessorX. You will have to use a combination of the silver (thick) and gold (thin) shims to properly shim your diff. You need to pay attention to the mesh with the pinion and the amount of side to side play. Ideally you want a tiny amount of play in the gear mesh (action should still feel smooth), and a snug fit in the gear case with no side to side play so that the gear mesh cannot change on you.
I got it Makes perfect sense now thanks
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