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Kyosho ZX6.6 New Parts


LA359B Center Mount Set (ZX6.6)
LA375 Center Diff. Gear Set(ZX6.6)
LA375-01 Center Diff. Gear Case Set(ZX6.6)
LA375-78 Spur Gear(48P-78T/ZX6.6)
LA376 Center Drive Shaft (71.5/ZX6.6)
LA377 Center Drive Shaft (79.5/ZX6.6)
LA378 Center Drive Shaft (88/ZX6.6)
LA379 Joint Cup Cover (ZX6/ZX6.6)
UM713B Rear Arms (from RB6)


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VVC Blades TFW126
Spare Blades TFW001-01

Manuals:

Lazer ZX6.6 http://www.kyosho.com/jpn/support/in...20ZX6.6_IM.pdf
Lazer ZX6 http://www.kyosho.com/jpn/support/in...ZER_ZX6_IM.pdfhttp://www.kyosho.com/jpn/support/in...ZER_ZX6_IM.pdf

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Old 09-28-2013, 01:04 PM   #151
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Yup I've heard this too.
Any details on what kind of problems they've had?
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They seem to be going ok now. Tebo broke a shock tower apparently.

The real issue right now seems to be pace. They are supposedly not running gear diffs. If you look at the results, the gear diff cars(Durango/Xray/Hot Bodies) are faster than the ball diff cars(ZX-6/22-4). The rumor was that the new Kyosho gear diffs for the ZX-6 were breaking and thus they went back to ball diffs.

For the majority of racers, the ball diffs will be fine. On these sugared uber grip tracks, gear diffs are the only answer it seems.
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K cars seem to be having a hard time keeping with the pace in general.
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I think the no slip of a gear diff is the big factor. When the cars without gear diffs are with a gear diff car they get pulled hard on acceleration.
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This is very true... After converting my FS2 to run gear diffs (Durango items) although the car was very good I just felt like it was pulling the car to pieces.. The standard slipper in the car could manage the brutality if set as separates etc it's just the rest of the car couldn't...The amount of slop/wear in such a short space of time was unreal..
The new 6 if going to be capable of running gear diffs it needs to be built like a tank!
Not a good day in terms of publicity for a new car...
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Can the latest zx5 be converted to a zx6?
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Can the latest zx5 be converted to a zx6?
I would doubt it.

After this weekend, the ZX-6 will probably see some MAJOR revisions.
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Old 09-29-2013, 11:21 PM   #158
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I would doubt it.

After this weekend, the ZX-6 will probably see some MAJOR revisions.
They won't be releasing this platform after such a bad result.
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Bring back the belt driven Lazers!

J/K, take your time and make the ZX-6 as good as it deserves to be. Boat jumpers will come back to Kyosho.
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There were plenty of growing pains to go around. Cant condemn the car yet, this was a very unique track, who's to say it doesnt work great with "typical" track conditions. I dont think Kyosho will make any big changes because of the event.
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This is very true... After converting my FS2 to run gear diffs (Durango items) although the car was very good I just felt like it was pulling the car to pieces.. The standard slipper in the car could manage the brutality if set as separates etc it's just the rest of the car couldn't...The amount of slop/wear in such a short space of time was unreal..
The new 6 if going to be capable of running gear diffs it needs to be built like a tank!
Not a good day in terms of publicity for a new car...
The reason why I got rid of my durango, was it was ripping itself to pieces, there is simply no give in the drive train! Was snapping drive shafts on a regular basis, along with wearing out axles and drive cups. The car was fast, even quicker with kyosho shocks on, just the cost of keeping it running was horrendous, the lazer on the other hand (apart from the shock tower mounting block) has been faultless.
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They won't be releasing this platform after such a bad result.
It's not "such a bad result", Tebo's place looks strange, but Ronnefalk was almost in A-main.
Meanwhile, the picture of the ZX6 (and the Durango prototype) with shorty on the rear/one side, and motor on front/other side makes it easy to have front/rear overall balanced, and left/right overall balanced, but weight may be too much on rear right and front left.
Did anybody else notice that ?
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Sadly, I don't think the sugared track thing is going to go away anytime soon. Even though the general consensus of most seems to be that they don't like then and want them to go away. The desire to keep the tracks consistent and to have the close racing that was seen at the Worlds(and the Nats and 2013 Cactus) will overrule the desire to not sugar.

That said, that means they will have to figure out how to make the car work on these types of tracks.
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Sadly, I don't think the sugared track thing is going to go away anytime soon. Even though the general consensus of most seems to be that they don't like then and want them to go away. The desire to keep the tracks consistent and to have the close racing that was seen at the Worlds(and the Nats and 2013 Cactus) will overrule the desire to not sugar.

That said, that means they will have to figure out how to make the car work on these types of tracks.
It will be the death of club racing if they're not careful. They're going to do the same thing they did to 1/8 scale.

Tire manufacturers will stop making the tires that club racers want because they are focused on high bite low wear, where as club racing tracks tend to focus on low wear. Some of them may even go to sugar to stay hip and price people further out of the game. I can't even get proline 4wd scrubs in the compound that works at my track anymore. On top of that, the "team setups" will be for mostly high bite and the average racer will struggle where previously he could just copy a team setup if they're not good at setup. Also, non sponsored people will really struggle at "big races" because the tracks EAT tires and they can't afford to compete, so everyone gets super serious and tries to get sponsors and soon you're left with what happened to the local 1/8 scale scene across America: The only ones left are the ones that have been doing it a long time, get tire sponsors, and drive around to the pro series races and rarely show up to club racing, and then the sport dies when nobody new wants to get into it.

It dies because we forget the club racer and focus on the top tier.
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Sadly, I don't think the sugared track thing is going to go away anytime soon. Even though the general consensus of most seems to be that they don't like then and want them to go away. The desire to keep the tracks consistent and to have the close racing that was seen at the Worlds(and the Nats and 2013 Cactus) will overrule the desire to not sugar
2011 IFMAR Worlds in Vaasaa :
sugar ? No
consistent ? Yes

A grip that didn't eat tires like this 2013 Worlds, but enough to make a great race, maybe almost interesting than this year except that both 2WD and 4WD were decided after two runs.
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