R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric Off-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-05-2013, 11:41 PM   #721
Tech Regular
 
1badgoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Port Richey Fl
Posts: 414
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zspeed36 View Post
I hear 1700 is good for indoors, do you mean a 1900 would be great? because I don't understand 1/8 motor number to power ratios yet could you maybe put that in perspective to 1/10 turns? like a 10.5 in a 2wd buggy compared to a 6.5 in 2wd? Sorry if that sounds stupid.

Go ahead with the 1700. Over the last two years I have been lowering the kv's in both my buggy and truggies. I run both indoors and outdoors on medium to large tracks. 1700 kv motors are plenty, just make sure you get the gearing right.
__________________
TLR/Futaba/Hitec/Tekin/Hyperion privateer
1badgoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2013, 01:27 AM   #722
Tech Master
 
JasonR/C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Joliet,Il
Posts: 1,858
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

I run a 1950kv. You can see the new car in my videos. Just look up jason r/c or tlr 8ight-e 3.0 on youtube. Judge your track size to mine for indoor. If your track is smaller I'd go to a 1700kv. Honestly unless its the backstraight I never go above quarter throttle. If you can tame the power go bigger.
__________________
Leisure Hours Hobbies and Raceway, Joliet, Illinois

Last edited by JasonR/C; 10-06-2013 at 01:28 AM. Reason: edit
JasonR/C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2013, 01:38 AM   #723
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 107
Default

Your track appears to be slightly bigger then the two I race at, straight is about 100ft. After some reading I did find that one of our local pros also typically uses a 1700kv from tekin. Which also makes me feel a little better. I can't help that I am a typical power hungry American.

what I ended up picking up is a Orion r8 pro and a Mr8 1750. I seriously hope that works out.

are you topping out on that back straight?
Zspeed36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2013, 09:27 AM   #724
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 602
Trader Rating: 39 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zspeed36 View Post
Your track appears to be slightly bigger then the two I race at, straight is about 100ft. After some reading I did find that one of our local pros also typically uses a 1700kv from tekin. Which also makes me feel a little better. I can't help that I am a typical power hungry American.

what I ended up picking up is a Orion r8 pro and a Mr8 1750. I seriously hope that works out.

are you topping out on that back straight?

If the track is smaller a 1700 should be perfect I had a 1900 in my 2.0 last winter and it was almost to much. Woulda bought a 1700 for my new 3.0 but I got the tekin indoor motor which is smoother so I decided to stick with the 1900 since its more "manageable" power.. Either way you'll have fun but in all honesty if your track is small your lap times will prolly be better with the 1700 slow is fast
1000rrstunna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2013, 10:39 AM   #725
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 107
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonR/C View Post
I run a 1950kv. You can see the new car in my videos. Just look up jason r/c or tlr 8ight-e 3.0 on youtube. Judge your track size to mine for indoor. If your track is smaller I'd go to a 1700kv. Honestly unless its the backstraight I never go above quarter throttle. If you can tame the power go bigger.
Hey Jason, my name is Jack Wolf. I go to leisure hours also, we met earlier in the summer. I just got my 3.0, and was sealing up that novarossi at the track. Well I picked up the 8ight E 3.0 for the indoor track only. I prefer my 8ight 3.0 nitro for outdoor, a lot of fun. I want to get a Tekin power system, I'm leaning toward the T8i models. What do you think? I run a 4s venom pack, 5300 70c. Weighs in at 561g. Do I need to run shorty packs? Does it defeat the purpose of running the T8i with a heavier pack? I'm on the fence, I know some of our fast guys are running the heavier setup with 4s and regular 1900kv. Anyone want to chime in, I can use the help.
old carpet rcr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2013, 11:14 AM   #726
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 107
Default

Well then I guess I will stick with the 1700 and see how things go.

any suggestions on gearing? I was guessing a 16t pinion?
Zspeed36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2013, 08:08 PM   #727
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,527
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by old carpet rcr View Post
Hey Jason, my name is Jack Wolf. I go to leisure hours also, we met earlier in the summer. I just got my 3.0, and was sealing up that novarossi at the track. Well I picked up the 8ight E 3.0 for the indoor track only. I prefer my 8ight 3.0 nitro for outdoor, a lot of fun. I want to get a Tekin power system, I'm leaning toward the T8i models. What do you think? I run a 4s venom pack, 5300 70c. Weighs in at 561g. Do I need to run shorty packs? Does it defeat the purpose of running the T8i with a heavier pack? I'm on the fence, I know some of our fast guys are running the heavier setup with 4s and regular 1900kv. Anyone want to chime in, I can use the help.
The T8i is not made for heavy cars. It is made for lighter cars. Therefore, a heavy pack will likely overwork the T8i and shorten the life or not provide the performance you are looking for. If you want to use big packs, get the big motor T8 Gen 2
__________________
-Ryan Dunford
Horizon Hobby Spektrum Product Manager
TLR--Spektrum--Horizon Hobby--Tekin--Venom--Pro-Line--Sticky Kicks--Bradley FLD--ImagineIt Graphics--Casper-RC.com
TLR 22 3.0, TLR 22T 2.0, TLR 22SCT 2.0, TLR TEN-SCTE 2.0, TLR 8ight-E 4.0, DX6R
hacker07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2013, 08:39 PM   #728
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 107
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker07 View Post
The T8i is not made for heavy cars. It is made for lighter cars. Therefore, a heavy pack will likely overwork the T8i and shorten the life or not provide the performance you are looking for. If you want to use big packs, get the big motor T8 Gen 2
Ok, thank you for the response. Will this buggy handle better lighter? I was going to set it up per the manual, except 0's in the front. Maybe a change in the rear if it doesn't corner the way I want. Will the manual setup work well with a heavier buggy? The indoor track Jason and I run at, seems like lighter is the way to go. What are good shorty packs? Also, what size kv on the T8i would be best? I really appreciate the help, had an older E buggy last year that I put too much money into trying to get it to do what it wasn't designed to do.
old carpet rcr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2013, 10:32 PM   #729
Tech Fanatic
 
big chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Fort Smith, AR
Posts: 751
Trader Rating: 50 (100%+)
Default

The Adam Drake outdoor setup is superb! The only change from the setup was I went with 1 degree less anti squat due to the track being rough and bumpy. Incredible the change from running the stock setup I ran on the same track.

I am mad this car came out so late into our season! Now this winter I'll be feigning to run more 1/8th scale!
__________________
B6 Carpet
B6 Clay
B6D dirt
SC5M
big chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2013, 10:52 PM   #730
Tech Champion
 
Krio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: At dirt tracks in Michigan!
Posts: 5,067
Trader Rating: 150 (99%+)
Default

Any aftermarket bodies out yet?
__________________
www.kriostasis.com
Krio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2013, 06:18 AM   #731
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 107
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by big chris View Post
The Adam Drake outdoor setup is superb! The only change from the setup was I went with 1 degree less anti squat due to the track being rough and bumpy. Incredible the change from running the stock setup I ran on the same track.

I am mad this car came out so late into our season! Now this winter I'll be feigning to run more 1/8th scale!
th ank you for the advice, but Im running on indoor clay track, medium sized, high byte. You can see it in Jason R/C videos
old carpet rcr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2013, 08:16 AM   #732
Tech Adept
 
ChanMan23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Millington, TN
Posts: 108
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Im pretty sure most of these questions have been answered but i just wanna know how this buggy is performance wise overall. Is it better than xray xb9e? Do you have to shim anything or pre-prep something before running the vehicle?
__________________
D-alpha / Xray / Vp-Powermaster /
ChanMan23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2013, 10:10 AM   #733
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,527
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by old carpet rcr View Post
Ok, thank you for the response. Will this buggy handle better lighter? I was going to set it up per the manual, except 0's in the front. Maybe a change in the rear if it doesn't corner the way I want. Will the manual setup work well with a heavier buggy? The indoor track Jason and I run at, seems like lighter is the way to go. What are good shorty packs? Also, what size kv on the T8i would be best? I really appreciate the help, had an older E buggy last year that I put too much money into trying to get it to do what it wasn't designed to do.
The reason the light motor exists is to make a light car. The reason for a light car is that indoor tracks tend to be a little smaller and tighter...if yours is that way, the lighter cars will switch directions faster.
__________________
-Ryan Dunford
Horizon Hobby Spektrum Product Manager
TLR--Spektrum--Horizon Hobby--Tekin--Venom--Pro-Line--Sticky Kicks--Bradley FLD--ImagineIt Graphics--Casper-RC.com
TLR 22 3.0, TLR 22T 2.0, TLR 22SCT 2.0, TLR TEN-SCTE 2.0, TLR 8ight-E 4.0, DX6R
hacker07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2013, 11:20 AM   #734
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 107
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker07 View Post
The reason the light motor exists is to make a light car. The reason for a light car is that indoor tracks tend to be a little smaller and tighter...if yours is that way, the lighter cars will switch directions faster.
I understand, I will be using the E buggy only indoors. So I want it to be able to perform the best I can make it. What shorty packs and kv T8i do you recommend?
old carpet rcr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2013, 11:48 AM   #735
Tech Prophet
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Orange, Ca
Posts: 17,738
Trader Rating: 34 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by old carpet rcr View Post
I understand, I will be using the E buggy only indoors. So I want it to be able to perform the best I can make it. What shorty packs and kv T8i do you recommend?
We are running Venom 3800mah 60C batteries and Tekin T8i 1950KV motor. This combo works great. We are running 10 min mains no problem with this setup as well.
__________________
TLR/Losi Team Driver
TLR/Losi | Tekin | DE Racing | Spektrum | Exotek | JBRL | Kolor Koncepts | OC/RC |Sticky Kicks | Imagine It Graphics | Casper-RC.com
TLR 22 4.0 SR, TLR 22T 3.0 (laydown), TLR 22-4 2.0, Spektrum DX6R

WWW.CASPER-RC.COM TLR and Tekin setups
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Tags
e-buggy, eight 3.0, losi, spur gear


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 04:41 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net