Who has a JATO?
04-18-2005, 06:23 AM
#46
Most LHS's will let you run almost anything....
Maybe it is time for ROAR to let .15's in, and as for the tires being bigger, most people that race get new tires anyway....You wouldn't have to change the whole chassi, it's not that big!lol....as for the two speed tranny, traxxas is going to be coming out with a single speed conversion...
Maybe it is time for ROAR to let .15's in, and as for the tires being bigger, most people that race get new tires anyway....You wouldn't have to change the whole chassi, it's not that big!lol....as for the two speed tranny, traxxas is going to be coming out with a single speed conversion...
04-18-2005, 11:46 PM
#47
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Originally posted by runnin rc10
True, but the differnce is a "sport" or cheaper version, and electric version, and the TRX. We are talking about changing the whole Jato to make it race legal and be able to compete. You would have to manufacture, another .12 motor, which I dont think htey have ever done. Manufacture a new tranny, new shocks, and a chassis that fit everything on it on a standard size chassis.
True, but the differnce is a "sport" or cheaper version, and electric version, and the TRX. We are talking about changing the whole Jato to make it race legal and be able to compete. You would have to manufacture, another .12 motor, which I dont think htey have ever done. Manufacture a new tranny, new shocks, and a chassis that fit everything on it on a standard size chassis.
throw a .12TR in the mix, and you have what looks to be a good racetruck.
04-19-2005, 05:40 PM
#49
Originally posted by Thai3g_Eclipse
Looks like the JATO will be selling for around $320-$370 USD depending where you look. I think I'm going to pick one up whenever it comes out. Also this month's issue of RCCA test drove one and they liked it, especially the suspension.
Looks like the JATO will be selling for around $320-$370 USD depending where you look. I think I'm going to pick one up whenever it comes out. Also this month's issue of RCCA test drove one and they liked it, especially the suspension.
04-21-2005, 11:18 AM
#50
How can this be a good racer with ez-start and a radio with no adjustments? Sounds like the usual, traxxas putting the word "race" into everything they've ever made..
Parasitic drivetrain loss from the ezstart? How's that possible when its not spinning? I've heard a lot of people complain about rotating mass in that thing, but its never moving when the engine is running..
The problem is that it doesn't do that great at starting, and its HEAVY.
Traxxas make a kit? Yeah, right. There's a reason they stopped making them.
Oh, there's one other thing. Captured tie-rods? I converted my npede to use ball studs specifically so they CAN pop off in a crash...it keeps the turnbuckles from getting trashed, usually....
Parasitic drivetrain loss from the ezstart? How's that possible when its not spinning? I've heard a lot of people complain about rotating mass in that thing, but its never moving when the engine is running..
The problem is that it doesn't do that great at starting, and its HEAVY.
Traxxas make a kit? Yeah, right. There's a reason they stopped making them.
Oh, there's one other thing. Captured tie-rods? I converted my npede to use ball studs specifically so they CAN pop off in a crash...it keeps the turnbuckles from getting trashed, usually....
04-21-2005, 12:44 PM
#51
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phroziac
Parasitic drivetrain loss from the ezstart? How's that possible when its not spinning? I've heard a lot of people complain about rotating mass in that thing, but its never moving when the engine is running..
Yes, parsitic loss.. While the EZ start sytem may not be spinning the rod the OWB sits on inside of the EZ Start backplate is spinning all the time. There is not only loss from the extra mass spinning but the extra drag on the crank.
We are not talking huge losses, it may only be a tenth of a HP. But in the world of small engines, the percentage is huge. Anything you can do to improve the efficiency of your motor will only help.
Charley
Parasitic drivetrain loss from the ezstart? How's that possible when its not spinning? I've heard a lot of people complain about rotating mass in that thing, but its never moving when the engine is running..
Yes, parsitic loss.. While the EZ start sytem may not be spinning the rod the OWB sits on inside of the EZ Start backplate is spinning all the time. There is not only loss from the extra mass spinning but the extra drag on the crank.
We are not talking huge losses, it may only be a tenth of a HP. But in the world of small engines, the percentage is huge. Anything you can do to improve the efficiency of your motor will only help.
Charley
04-21-2005, 02:15 PM
#52
Yeah thats true, but thats the same with any type of shaft starter, onboard starter, and pullstarter, isnt it?
And it's probably better not to ship the truck with a starterless engine and either require a starterbox or ship a cheapo one with it...I'd agree with putting a pullstart on, and maybe including a really cheap glow ignitor, like those 10 dollar ones with the built on, not so easy to change battery. I keep one of those in my pit bag incase someone at the track forgets there glow ignitor.
And it's probably better not to ship the truck with a starterless engine and either require a starterbox or ship a cheapo one with it...I'd agree with putting a pullstart on, and maybe including a really cheap glow ignitor, like those 10 dollar ones with the built on, not so easy to change battery. I keep one of those in my pit bag incase someone at the track forgets there glow ignitor.
04-23-2005, 01:48 PM
#53
Originally posted by Phroziac
Traxxas make a kit? Yeah, right. There's a reason they stopped making them.
Traxxas make a kit? Yeah, right. There's a reason they stopped making them.
04-23-2005, 03:48 PM
#54
Obviously they didn't sell well.
04-23-2005, 05:02 PM
#55
That was how long ago???
04-23-2005, 05:09 PM
#56
Before i was in the hobby.
04-23-2005, 05:11 PM
#57
I guess they figure most people buy RTR's...
I just hate their radios...
I just hate their radios...
04-23-2005, 05:14 PM
#58
Most/many people wanting a traxxas are new, newbies want RTR.
I go for the higher end these days.
I go for the higher end these days.
04-23-2005, 05:20 PM
#59
Originally posted by Phroziac
Most/many people wanting a traxxas are new, newbies want RTR.
I go for the higher end these days.
Most/many people wanting a traxxas are new, newbies want RTR.
I go for the higher end these days.
04-23-2005, 05:22 PM
#60
HE is right though, most newbs want RTR's. Not all are crap. The savage 21 or 25 definately isn't crap. But IMHO i think traxxas needs to make a better quality radio.