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kuruption 10-31-2012 01:03 PM

Official XRAY XB4 Thread (All Years)
Going to start organizing relevant information here on the first post, please be patient. Please feel free to PM me significant information you think should be provided on the first post.

http://teamxray.com/xb4/2016/images/...y/small/01.jpg
http://teamxray.com/xb4/2016/images/...y/small/03.jpg
http://teamxray.com/xb4/2016/images/...y/small/09.jpg
http://teamxray.com/xb4/2016/images/...y/small/11.jpg

12MM Hex Conversion
BentKa provides a lot of information about the 12mm hex conversions for the XB4, and this info is also relevant to the XB2. Summarized from his original post and the XB2 page below:

All measurement are done on the '16 XB4 using:
  • 20mm ride height (placed on Hudy 20mm droop blocks)
  • 3 degree toe-in in the rear
  • 1 degree toe-out in the front
  • Hinge pin inserts in the middle position front and rear.
  • Measured on the rear of the rear wheels (no tires)
  • Measured on the front of the front wheels (no tires)

Width using stock 14mm wheel hexes and Xray V2 14mm wheels:
  • Front: 245mm
  • Rear: 245mm

Width using 12mm wheel hexes and Xray 12mm wheels:
Front:
  • #365354 -0.75mm = 242mm
  • #365353 0mm = 243,5mm
  • #365355 +0.75mm (1 stripe) = 245mm
  • #365356 +1.5mm (2 stripe) = 246,5mm
  • #365357 +2.25mm (3 stripe) = 248mm
  • #365358 +3.00mm (4 stripe) = Not enough threads on axle to secure the wheel nut.

Rear:
  • #365353 0mm = 243mm
  • #365355 +0.75mm (1 stripe) = 245mm
  • #365356 +1.5mm (2 stripe) = 247mm
  • #365357 +2.25mm (3 stripe) = 249mm
  • #365358 +3.00mm (4 stripe) = 251mm

Here are some measurements of both stock included hexes and the optional hexes:
  • #365354 -0.75mm (2pcs) = 3.8mm
  • #365353 0mm (2pcs) = 4.6mm (XB2 stock front)(same width as standard 14mm wheel hexes)
  • #365355 +0.75mm (1 stripe)(2pcs) = 5.3mm
  • #365356 +1.5mm (2 stripe)(2pcs) = 6.1mm
  • #365357 +2.25mm (3 stripe)(2pcs) = 6.8mm (XB2 stock rear)
  • #365358 +3.00mm (4 stripe)(2pcs) = 7.6mm
  • #365359 +3.75mm (5 stripe)(2pcs) = 8.4mm

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps2v6zschb.jpg
http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps6nvhb9qx.png

The small inner flange that goes towards the bearing are not included in the measurements. This flange adds 0.3mm on all the above numbers.

Most who have gone to the 12mm hexes are using the +0.75mm (#365355) on the front and +1.5mm (#365356) on the rear using standard 12mm rear wheels and TLR 22-4 front wheels which have the same offset as the Xray 12mm front wheels (#369912). Car becomes very stable with this combination.

Exotek Hexes
For comparison, here are the hex widths provided by Exotek:
  • 1409 5mm
  • 1456 7mm
  • 1408 9mm
  • 1410 9.5mm

Notes from Exotek's site on their hex sizes:
Quote:

1456 makes the rear wheel width about 243mm wide with AE/kyosho style wheels.
1408 makes the rear wheel width about 247mm wide with AE/kyosho style wheels.
1409 makes the front wheel width about 247mm wide with Kysosho 4wd front wheels.
1409 makes the front wheel width about 243mm wide with HPI D413/LOSI 22-4 4wd front wheels.
1410 makes the front wheel width about 243mm wide with B44.2 4wd front wheels.
Per IFMAR, maximum overall width is 250mm.

12* Aluminum Caster Blocks
Many have reported that the 12* caster blocks are a must if you run on carpet or astroturf. I personally have found they make the car too aggressive for low-medium bite clay conditions.

Slipper Assembly
The 2016 manual doesn't do a great job at explaining how to properly assemble the slipper, so here's the way many of us were able to accomplish the build. After installing the spur gear (right side of image), place the slipper pad (#2) and then the aluminum plate (#3) before inserting the ping (#1).

http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...psewg8ewgc.png

More information to be populated shortly...

Year specific information:

2016
Official Page

Reserved

2015
Official Page

Reserved

2014
Official Page

Reserved

2013 (Original)
Official Page

Reserved

WRR 10-31-2012 02:44 PM

The white car starting first on the grid with a Yoke B-max body is a XB4 driven by Martin Bayer. He won.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=HSpOBt12mYQ

nv529 10-31-2012 02:52 PM

Uh-oh, search button must be broken again! :P

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...4wd-sneak.html

kjuliussen 10-31-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nv529 (Post 11390319)
Uh-oh, search button must be broken again! :P

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...4wd-sneak.html

I started a new thread because x-ray 4wd sneak is a terrible title. Atleast now when we know what the car is called. And second x-ray is spelled wrong. Should be Xray.. :D

rraden 10-31-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRR (Post 11390290)
The white car starting first on the grid with a Yoke B-max body is a XB4 driven by Martin Bayer. He won.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=HSpOBt12mYQ

Bummer, I thought it was going to be on a dirt track. He could have raised the ride height on his TC4 and ran it on that track. Let's see it get dirty!

Oh yeah, when will it be available in the states. Can't wait!:nod:

kjuliussen 10-31-2012 04:02 PM

I heard that it will be released in November. Here in Europe atleast.
I think it took only 2-3 weeks after T4 (touring car) teaser before release, so i hope this goes for XB4 too.. :)

WRR 10-31-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rraden (Post 11390428)
Bummer, I thought it was going to be on a dirt track. He could have raised the ride height on his TC4 and ran it on that track. Let's see it get dirty!

Oh yeah, when will it be available in the states. Can't wait!:nod:

Here is some dirt action for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=uWE2Imy5kbw#!

ps71 11-01-2012 03:55 AM

Want one:-) :-)

rokitman 11-01-2012 04:22 AM

This is gonna be nice...:nod:

OleC 11-01-2012 06:01 AM

http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/sho...0bbbf749474db5

Buckland 11-01-2012 11:27 AM

This car looks sick! Anyone here with experience of Xray products that can give me general info on parts availability or an estimated price of this kit?

30Tooth 11-01-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OleC (Post 11392207)

Mr. Hudy ate a tire!!!

jsinclair 11-01-2012 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckland (Post 11393288)
This car looks sick! Anyone here with experience of Xray products that can give me general info on parts availability or an estimated price of this kit?

There touring cars are priced well in there respective class, and there arguably the toughest on the market.

fullsyzz 11-01-2012 12:59 PM

I'm guessing the price will be in the, "who cares I'm gonna buy it anyway" range. :)

aloksatoor 11-01-2012 01:40 PM

Guessing around 500$ at least. But knowing xray thats the only thing you going to buy. They are tough as nails and dont slop out for a long long time.


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