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Old 04-20-2016, 11:23 AM   #10876
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yes i use the savox sc1258tg black edition, pretty perfect specs for a 4wd buggy. over 150oz of tq, speed around or under .10sec, titanium gear, not overly expensive.
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I run a full size xpert 4431 in mine
Thanks for quick reply's, think I will go for KO Propo RSx2 Response No.30108, just have to figure out if that is the best they have to offer for my XB4. 3 weeks away at my dealer but if I get everything else ready before I also have 1258tg, mounted in my RB6 and it will do for sure meanwhile I wait.

Also looked at Hitec but this time it's gonna be KO Propo, maybe I will try Hitec on my 1/8 buggy.
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Old 04-20-2016, 11:28 AM   #10877
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Cool. Thanks. Does the bugleboy one fit the 16 version? It says it will fit the 15 with modifications.
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Cool. Thanks. Does the bugleboy one fit the 16 version? It says it will fit the 15 with modifications.
Should still fit the same since the '16 bulkhead fits the '15. Its mounted using the 2 fronts screws going through the chassis to the bulkhead. Looks like the bugle boy bumper is out of stock though.
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The bugle boy bumper only fits the 13 and 14 cars correctly. You have to modify it to fit the 15 and 16 cars and only use the 2 front holes to mount it. Which leaves the 2 rear holes to catch dirt and it looks half assed imo. Wish I would have read the description better before I ordered one.
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Old 04-20-2016, 01:22 PM   #10880
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Or build your own =)

Dremel, hammer, vice and some heat:

Found a cracked chassi at the track


Holes matched my RB6 bumper, just luck =)




















Aluminium bumper = greater risk for damaged turf or similar so to calm the track police..

Bought the largest shrink tubing with glue I could find


After some work with the Dremel it became a tight fit

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Old 04-20-2016, 02:02 PM   #10881
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use a normal servo. theres plenty of room in 4wd. plus theyre more durable. low profile servos tend to use thinner gears and just innards in general, so they tend to not handle as much abuse.
that is not true. The newer shorty spectrum servos are by far a better servo then the past normal size spectrum servo's or say the common savox 1257 & 1258 servo's. Maybe the older ones werent as good but must servo's either shorty or normal both have aluminum gears now. For me I like having the extra room behind the servo.

here is the spectrum shorty servo spec;
Torque: 208 oz-in (15.0kg-cm) @ 6.0V
Speed: 0.08 sec/60 deg @ 6v (no load)
Aluminum hard anodized output shaft/main gear with steel internal gears
Aluminum case for good heat dissipation
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Speed @ 6.0V: 0.08 sec/60
Torque @ 6.0V: 166 oz-in / 12 kg-cm

the spectrum is not only smaller but is rated for more torque then the normal savox servos that alot of people
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can someone help me out with shock oil? I have 2x1.6 front pistons and 2x1.7 rears. i am setting the car up for carpet right now but i will swtch from med-high bite clay and carpet.

What would be a good starting oil for the carpet considering the pistons im using, also what springs? help would be cool, ive never used these cst shock oils from hudy i have 450, 500, 550, 600, 700, and 800
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can someone help me out with shock oil? I have 2x1.6 front pistons and 2x1.7 rears. i am setting the car up for carpet right now but i will swtch from med-high bite clay and carpet.

What would be a good starting oil for the carpet considering the pistons im using, also what springs? help would be cool, ive never used these cst shock oils from hudy i have 450, 500, 550, 600, 700, and 800
I run the basic carpet set up with 800f and 600r 2H 1.4 and 3H 1.3 respectively, you may want to start there. (ive gone down to 5K diff oil though)

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I also run Yokomo Yatabe Arena Purples front and rear YAS-650...seriously the car is on rails, it almost feels like i'm cheating running this car

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Old 04-20-2016, 11:55 PM   #10884
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can someone help me out with shock oil? I have 2x1.6 front pistons and 2x1.7 rears. i am setting the car up for carpet right now but i will swtch from med-high bite clay and carpet.

What would be a good starting oil for the carpet considering the pistons im using, also what springs? help would be cool, ive never used these cst shock oils from hudy i have 450, 500, 550, 600, 700, and 800
Absolute sweet spot for carpet with 2x1.6 and 2x1.7 pistons are 750cst front (mix 50/50 of your 700 and 800 oil) and 550 cst rear.

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Old 04-21-2016, 02:05 AM   #10885
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Absolute sweet spot for carpet with 2x1.6 and 2x1.7 pistons are 750cst front (mix 50/50 of your 700 and 800 oil) and 550 cst rear.

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4 dor front 3 dot rear?
what oils in the diffs please


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4 dor front 3 dot rear?
what oils in the diffs please


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3 dot front and 2 dot rear.

1.6-1.8 mm front swaybar (depending on grip level and tires used)
1.4-1.8 mm rear swaybar (depending on grip level and tires used)

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1 million in center diff outdoors on astro (usually stock slipper indoors on carpet)
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Absolute sweet spot for carpet with 2x1.6 and 2x1.7 pistons are 750cst front (mix 50/50 of your 700 and 800 oil) and 550 cst rear.

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AHH, thats where i went wrong. i wasnt sure if i should mix the oil. would 700 front and 500 rear work okay for a smooth indoor small carpet track and a large ourdoor astro track thats also smooth?

then next time i will mix the oils to get the desired rate.

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3 dot front and 2 dot rear.

1.6-1.8 mm front swaybar (depending on grip level and tires used)
1.4-1.8 mm rear swaybar (depending on grip level and tires used)

10' front diff
1 million in center diff outdoors on astro (usually stock slipper indoors on carpet)
10' rear diff

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1mil on outdoor astro? would 500k work good on indoor clay? how would 8 50k 8 be on clay?
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AHH, thats where i went wrong. i wasnt sure if i should mix the oil. would 700 front and 500 rear work okay for a smooth indoor small carpet track and a large ourdoor astro track thats also smooth?

then next time i will mix the oils to get the desired rate.



1mil on outdoor astro? would 500k work good on indoor clay? how would 8 50k 8 be on clay?
1 mil if it's high grip.

If it's super high grip we go to 2 mil or slipper.

For clay and dirt we run 500K.

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Cool. Thanks. Does the bugleboy one fit the 16 version? It says it will fit the 15 with modifications.
Yes the BBoy fits. You can either cut the back half off or just sand the countersunk hole flanges off. I actually will shave a tad off the kits front bumper thus flip it upside down in conjunction with using the BBoy front bumper/skid. Not needed but its extra protection.
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Thanks for quick reply's, think I will go for KO Propo RSx2 Response No.30108, just have to figure out if that is the best they have to offer for my XB4. 3 weeks away at my dealer but if I get everything else ready before I also have 1258tg, mounted in my RB6 and it will do for sure meanwhile I wait.

Also looked at Hitec but this time it's gonna be KO Propo, maybe I will try Hitec on my 1/8 buggy.
I ran the KO one 10 power and had issues with it thus I switched to RadioPost servos and the are money. Super smooth, quiet, precise, high speed, high torque. Their all purpose Green is excellent.
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