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Old 12-19-2015, 06:24 PM   #9661
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I installed the xray 12 degree caster and the xray aluminium rear hubs. I couldn't get my car to stop snap rolling. Big money upgraded, I don't want to take them off. How can I settled down the steering?
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Did you try changing your ackermann?
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Old 12-19-2015, 06:52 PM   #9662
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I installed the xray 12 degree caster and the xray aluminium rear hubs. I couldn't get my car to stop snap rolling. Big money upgraded, I don't want to take them off. How can I settled down the steering?
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I have same problem like your also i upgrade 2.4mm wheels and rubbing the wheels inside the arm. I did down EPA steering from 100% to 85%
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My clay high bite setup where clay primes are choice.

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Hi Bent,

Sorry - just to clarify, you run 12mm hexes on both cars but run the 2wd fronts on the xb2 and 4wd fronts on the xb4?

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Is there an XB8 thread and what is the release cycle for this car? Or perhaps more specifically will there be a 2016 released anytime soon?

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Xray XB8Ethread:
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1/8 OR kits are usually updated in the spring in time for the European outdoor season

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BentKa I went with the box setup, I run on a high traction carpet. The car was on rails before but it seems really twitchy. Its very quick but very nimble and really sensitive to steering moments. Mostly on power coming out of turns. Thanks
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I'm having the same issue as well. With the snap rolling, using the same ups, I'm not sure his setup but I believe he's running the same track as me, which is carpet and pretty high traction.

My setup is book stock aside from the 12 degree casters and aluminum hubs. Also my Shock position is 1 and 1 up front and 2 and 1 in rear.

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EDIT: Just saw he posted above so I will follow your answers to his question. Thanks again Bent, big time appreciation for your continuing to share your tuning knowledge
For high grip carpet we use Malin's Worlds setup as a base:

http://forum.teamxray.com/xform/inde...setup=xb4_2016

What tires do you run ?

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Old 12-19-2015, 10:49 PM   #9667
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What do you recommend for front and rear shock stroke?
For the '14 car we used either like the setup with 0mm internal limiters and no threads showing above shock rod ends or with 2mm limiters inside shocks for more on-power steering and a bit better rear grip coming into corners.

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One thing I notice on my '16 car is that the front arms have quite a bit more droop than my '15 car even with the stock limiters in. Was this intentional in the design? Honestly I like the way my 15 is handling better. 16 seems twitchy a bit even with the 12* blocks on and shocks stood up. It bears mentioning that my 15 car is running no top decks with the CF chassis stiffener kit, similar to the box setup that comes with the 16. Cars behave very differently though. I'm having trouble bonding with this car and that sucks. I want the car to be easy to drive and I'm not sure how to calm it down. Currently running 7kF-Slipper-7kR and shocks are two hole 1.6F and 1.7R with 40wt up front and 35R.
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One thing I notice on my '16 car is that the front arms have quite a bit more droop than my '15 car even with the stock limiters in. Was this intentional in the design? Honestly I like the way my 15 is handling better. 16 seems twitchy a bit even with the 12* blocks on and shocks stood up. It bears mentioning that my 15 car is running no top decks with the CF chassis stiffener kit, similar to the box setup that comes with the 16. Cars behave very differently though. I'm having trouble bonding with this car and that sucks. I want the car to be easy to drive and I'm not sure how to calm it down. Currently running 7kF-Slipper-7kR and shocks are two hole 1.6F and 1.7R with 40wt up front and 35R.
Yes this is intentional.

This lets the suspension work much better at lower ride heights like 15-16mm and adds overall grip to the car.

What you refer to as twitchy we refer to as added steering

Standing the shocks up will make it more twitchy.
To calm it down we lay the shocks down, not stand them up

What surface are you running on and with what tires ?

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Xray XB8Ethread:
Official Xray XB8E thread

Xray XB8 thread:
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1/8 OR kits are usually updated in the spring in time for the European outdoor season

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One thing I notice on my '16 car is that the front arms have quite a bit more droop than my '15 car even with the stock limiters in. Was this intentional in the design? Honestly I like the way my 15 is handling better. 16 seems twitchy a bit even with the 12* blocks on and shocks stood up. It bears mentioning that my 15 car is running no top decks with the CF chassis stiffener kit, similar to the box setup that comes with the 16. Cars behave very differently though. I'm having trouble bonding with this car and that sucks. I want the car to be easy to drive and I'm not sure how to calm it down. Currently running 7kF-Slipper-7kR and shocks are two hole 1.6F and 1.7R with 40wt up front and 35R.
What kind of traction levels are you racing on? Going up in your diff fluids will calm down the "twitchyness" or what I like to call responsiveness. With the lighter diff fluids the car will rotate faster off the center point of the car.

Tell us what exactly the car is or isn't doing and let's see if we can dial it in for you a bit.
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this might be a dumb question but can someone go into detail about the ISS inserts. The book trys to explain it but i still do understand 100%. also can someone explain what each setting will do and how it affects the car. thanks a ton as i am sure there will be a long reply.
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this might be a dumb question but can someone go into detail about the ISS inserts. The book trys to explain it but i still do understand 100%. also can someone explain what each setting will do and how it affects the car. thanks a ton as i am sure there will be a long reply.
Values for the different positions are all in the manual (except for the inbetween 0.5 positions).

The effect of all the different positions can be found here in the Hudy Offroad Book:

http://www.hudy.net/xhudy/showfile.php?file_id=692&crt=e555ebe0ce426f7f9b2be f0706315e0c

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So higher diff oils will cause it to "push" into the corner a bit more. In the carpet it seems to hook and turn. Makes exiting the corner feel loose. I cant drive into the corner near as hard as i would like to
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Values for the different positions are all in the manual (except for the inbetween 0.5 positions).

The effect of all the different positions can be found here in the Hudy Offroad Book:

http://www.hudy.net/xhudy/showfile.p...2bef0706315e0c

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yes i have read page in the book like 10 tens and i still dont understand it.
I guess where I get lost is if for example, if you get the inserts that have the dots in the middle but toward the inside it say -1.5 track, well what would the Anti Squat and Roll Center and Toe In? sorry if this is a really dumb question i am normally good at this stuff but just dont get there system. thank
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