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Old 04-29-2015, 10:00 PM   #8131
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Thank you RCGOD,

I will try you suggestion putting shock placemeny on the inner arm holes as I need alot of big time extra travel for this track. In addition how about dropping the hinge pins down fully both front and rear while keeping the track width stock center.

Thanks brother! Your knowlege is greatly appreciated my fiend.
I've never ran any other shock location than outside of the arm. If I need more traction I use lighter shock oil, lighter springs and more droop. So I can't really give you advice there since I've never tried it on this car.

Keep in mind also that sometimes things work reverse from what you think they will. For instance most setup guides say to lower front roll center for more steering, but I've found the opposite, probably because I don't run a front sway bar or if I do it's very small like 1.0mm. Sometimes you have to try things and see what happens, then take good mental notes and learn from it. 😊
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hello im running on a low/med bite slick track running gear diffs front and rear. has anyone tried the ball diffs? wondering if ball diffs are worth getting to get most traction?
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Old 04-30-2015, 08:31 AM   #8133
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hello im running on a low/med bite slick track running gear diffs front and rear. has anyone tried the ball diffs? wondering if ball diffs are worth getting to get most traction?
This is, at least, the 3rd car you've asked numerous questions about obtaining more traction. Along with your thread about foam inserts, looking for more traction. As well as posting in the Sticky Kicks thread, looking for more traction.

Now there's nothing wrong with asking questions. But when your questions constantly revolve around one single subject. 3 things happen; One, people get irritated by repetitiveness and simply begin to ignore you. Two, it brings out the hecklers, and to a certain extent deservedly so. 3rd and last, it raises our own questions as to exactly what are you looking for and what do you expect?? So, here are my questions for you. If you've covered any of these already I apologize, I don't follow you as closely as some others.

1. Are you the fastest guy at your track? IF you are, stop looking for more traction! You obviously have enough. If not, keep reading..
2. Are you using the same tires and inserts as everyone else, including anyone faster than you?
3. Have you asked others at your track (mostly faster guys) for help, or about the equipment they're running?
4. This is a BIG one. Have you had a faster driver actually drive YOUR car and give you feedback?
5. How much traction are you looking for and exactly how far off the pace are you from the fast guys?
6. Are you sure you even have a traction issue?
7. Is it at all possible that traction isn't your issue and that those faster than you simply have better "throttle management skills"??
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Old 04-30-2015, 01:54 PM   #8134
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This is, at least, the 3rd car you've asked numerous questions about obtaining more traction. Along with your thread about foam inserts, looking for more traction. As well as posting in the Sticky Kicks thread, looking for more traction.

Now there's nothing wrong with asking questions. But when your questions constantly revolve around one single subject. 3 things happen; One, people get irritated by repetitiveness and simply begin to ignore you. Two, it brings out the hecklers, and to a certain extent deservedly so. 3rd and last, it raises our own questions as to exactly what are you looking for and what do you expect?? So, here are my questions for you. If you've covered any of these already I apologize, I don't follow you as closely as some others.

1. Are you the fastest guy at your track? IF you are, stop looking for more traction! You obviously have enough. If not, keep reading..
2. Are you using the same tires and inserts as everyone else, including anyone faster than you?
3. Have you asked others at your track (mostly faster guys) for help, or about the equipment they're running?
4. This is a BIG one. Have you had a faster driver actually drive YOUR car and give you feedback?
5. How much traction are you looking for and exactly how far off the pace are you from the fast guys?
6. Are you sure you even have a traction issue?
7. Is it at all possible that traction isn't your issue and that those faster than you simply have better "throttle management skills"??
I vote this for best response of the year, who's with me?
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Old 04-30-2015, 02:25 PM   #8135
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try on carpet... lol
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ok Dirt sssshhhhhhh don't tell anyone
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Old 04-30-2015, 06:52 PM   #8137
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1. Are you the fastest guy at your track? IF you are, stop looking for more traction! You obviously have enough. If not, keep reading..
2. Are you using the same tires and inserts as everyone else, including anyone faster than you?
3. Have you asked others at your track (mostly faster guys) for help, or about the equipment they're running?
4. This is a BIG one. Have you had a faster driver actually drive YOUR car and give you feedback?
5. How much traction are you looking for and exactly how far off the pace are you from the fast guys?
6. Are you sure you even have a traction issue?
7. Is it at all possible that traction isn't your issue and that those faster than you simply have better "throttle management skills"??

Classic reply.
I'll have some fun answering your questions to Dirt Digger.



1. I was, until Painy arrived.
2. No, cause my Proline's are way better then AKA's on our track (did I just type that on a forum)
3. No, cause he drives a Yokomo and he is scared of me beating him.
4. Yes, he said you should be 'Dominating' with this car. But he wasn't clear what i was meant to be 'Dominating'.
5. I want to see the tread flying off of the tire. If you take my fastest lap, multiply it by 14. I would win every race. FYI - about 10 laps per race I require marshaling.
6. Yes, traction is the issue as the 3.5t isn't getting hot at all because I can't jam on the throttle due to the lack of traction on polished wooden boards.
7. No, its traction. I think!
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Holy chit, now that was a good read !
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Old 05-01-2015, 03:13 AM   #8139
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This is, at least, the 3rd car you've asked numerous questions about obtaining more traction. Along with your thread about foam inserts, looking for more traction. As well as posting in the Sticky Kicks thread, looking for more traction.
no don't blame the driver, its definitely not the driver

why does the track owner pour oil on the track before my heats

you are right, at least 3, but I'm sure its at least 4 cars

people just do remember repetitive posts....

as I recall, there was the d413,
then the b5m
then serpent
now xb4

come on Dirt, if you buy a 22-4 you will be asking the opposite question and 'why do I have so much rear traction?'
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hello im running on a low/med bite slick track running gear diffs front and rear. has anyone tried the ball diffs? wondering if ball diffs are worth getting to get most traction?
I was curious when I saw all the comments that followed this statement so I did a quick search and found this:
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Thanks a lot for responses! I run in a med bite indoor track that's pretty slick. U guys think the gear diff would put down the power better than the slipper? I'm running a 5.5 turn . I was hoping a gear diff would get me some more bite?
Pretty sure this may be the problem. Try a 7.5 or at the very least back your epa down.
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Yeah if he is running the 5.5 that is the issue like you said. I run a 6.5 and have my epa set at 85 percent. Unless you run a whole qualifier with zero mistakes then that motor isn't gonna help you. Guys have to realize they would be faster with less motor.
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Old 05-03-2015, 01:34 PM   #8142
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Could you please clarify the bump steer measurements on Martin's, Malin's and X-Rays base set up sheets. Does the measurements on the set up sheets include the 2mm conical shim or not. For example when it quotes 4mm on the Ackerman plate, is that the 2mm conical shim plus a 2mm shim or plus a 4mm shim. The same for the steering block, when it quotes 2mm I'm not sure if that means just the conical shim or with a 2mm shim as well. I guess the same question applies for the front camber links at the hub end.
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I was curious when I saw all the comments that followed this statement so I did a quick search and found this:
Pretty sure this may be the problem. Try a 7.5 or at the very least back your epa down.
Did a quick search? U need to get a life!
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Did a quick search? U need to get a life!
He gives you an honest opinion, and you insult the guy. Get a grip, and realize your running too much motor. Try backing the power down to 80%, or 70%, and see if that helps with traction. Less power with traction will make faster laps any day of the week than an over powered car.
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on small track 12 isn second laps i run 13.5 in blink and can keep up fairly well and less tire ware or traction problems
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