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Old 04-22-2015, 07:06 PM   #8041
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Quick Question in using the new 4 hole aluminum steering plate.

What is a good starting point regarding suggested mm b. steer under the ball studs. The kit plate looks to have lower hanging base point for the ball studs. I was thinking possibly adding an additional 2mm shim with the 2mm c. washer thus topping out at 4mm.

As always any suggestions is greatly appreciated
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:30 PM   #8042
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I used a 4mm spacers on the weekend. I think factory driver are using either 4-5mm of spacing.

I'm surprised how different the holes are on the new plate. Not one hole lines up to the standard kit one.

ps I have sent Xray an email questing an updated XB4 setup sheet(v5) so we can record the new ancherman position and include the a spot to record spacers used on the new alum rear hub.
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:32 PM   #8043
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The back side is not flush, so it is adapted for stock geometry without the roll center brace. I find that with the new towers there is very little or no need for the roll center brace, so it will do its job without it.

For the rear it won't work, unless maybe if you run the shock tower in the rear position.

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looking at where the rear diff case breaks,it is the plastic that is very thin where the screw comes through the ears of the tower shock tower mount,if I make a support that goes up and over the 4 screws that hold the mount and came down to a 90 degree bend tab and was screwed over top of the rear chassis support with the those 2 screws,it would secure it to a much thicker piece of case.
Using the shock tower mount in the rear still leaves nothing but the shock tower bolts to screw to,this whole area is very weak.

Asfar as the front just noticed the brace i have doesnt connect to the last row of bolts,but does connect to the inside camber link screws,not sure what good that does,can someone post a link to a site in the usa that sells this type brace and the shelle or avid pistons that work well for handliing larger jumps.this triple is eating the xb4 alive

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Old 04-22-2015, 08:38 PM   #8044
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both mine broke on 2 diffrent cars in almost same spot,this type of mini brace in alum would work ok..
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I used a 4mm spacers on the weekend. I think factory driver are using either 4-5mm of spacing.

I'm surprised how different the holes are on the new plate. Not one hole lines up to the standard kit one.

ps I have sent Xray an email questing an updated XB4 setup sheet(v5) so we can record the new ancherman position and include the a spot to record spacers used on the new alum rear hub.
Boz,

Thanks my friend for the help. Yes I agree the new 4 hole plate is much different with the Ackerman positions and although thinner the ball stud base mounts sit higher than the stock plate.
I will definitely try 4mm first by adding a 2mm shim. When using just the 2mm c. washer as directed with the stock steering plate the angle is just to much.

Thanks again brother and have an excellent rest of the week.
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Ouch!!!!! I better get something figured out before I even think about running my XB4 on our local 8th scale track.

Thanks for sharing the pics although I hate seeing people gear getting laid out.


Have a excellent rest of your week my friend
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both mine broke on 2 diffrent cars in almost same spot,this type of mini brace in alum would work ok..
Your probably correct. What about CF in a that format but a full triangle. Thus one could recess counter sunk screw holes.
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havnt seen may carbon parts with a tight right angle in them. usually flat parts that can be cad cut from a sheet.
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Boz,

Thanks my friend for the help. Yes I agree the new 4 hole plate is much different with the Ackerman positions and although thinner the ball stud base mounts sit higher than the stock plate.
I will definitely try 4mm first by adding a 2mm shim. When using just the 2mm c. washer as directed with the stock steering plate the angle is just to much.

Thanks again brother and have an excellent rest of the week.

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You can use this spacer from the XB4 2wd
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I think that camber link brace was to stop the inner ball stud ripping though the shock tower, nothing to do with the bulkhead breaking.

First thing I noticed when I built mine was that there wasn't a lot of the flat part of the ball stud sitting on the shock tower, meant it could twist in a crash, I just used washers and flanged nuts and haven't had a problem there.

Like I said before, the Rall Racing bulkhead saver is a god send, going by how the kit one broke, I'm sure the saver has stopped me having a breakage since.
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Just got doing some maintenance on my 14 XB4 and noticed that the top deck is broke in half by the body mount post. Since there is no chance of getting a replacement here in time for the last indoor race of the season on Sat, I'm going to try epoxying it together and keep my fingers crossed to see if it holds up. Anyone have any tips for gluing or welding carbon fiber?
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Just got doing some maintenance on my 14 XB4 and noticed that the top deck is broke in half by the body mount post. Since there is no chance of getting a replacement here in time for the last indoor race of the season on Sat, I'm going to try epoxying it together and keep my fingers crossed to see if it holds up. Anyone have any tips for gluing or welding carbon fiber?
Hey Eric,

Can you use CA glue in conjunction with some accelerator(Bob Smith Industries) CA on one edge and accelerator on the other edge.

I could be totally wrong as I am not positive on how this combo works on CF but I do know it works like magic in securing broken plastic/composite parts..

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havnt seen may carbon parts with a tight right angle in them. usually flat parts that can be cad cut from a sheet.
I was thinking one could use a thick piece of CF, to then mod into the brace.

Wish I had I nice 3D printer as that would be a great way to create your brace.

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