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Old 01-31-2015, 10:52 AM   #6901
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Not to defend him as I have my own doubts over some email replays I've had from them this week over metal gear comparability, but it's the EOS rd in Berlin this weekend, so it's possible he's off doing that and can't check things before replying to you....
Precisely, but to be honest I would be surprised if I actually even get a response. It would not be that far fetched to think that he may not even be aware of the issue, or any others, and that his underlings in the company are the ones trusted to call the shots on how to deal with some of these things. My hope was to make Mr. Hudy himself aware of how his company is dealing with his customers, in case he isn't already.
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:55 AM   #6902
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Yes the insert position from Team C is 0.5mm lower.
The Part is available by Eurorc Part Nr. 04130
To Norse- This is what I went by. When I looked it up, I found this # but with a "T" in front of it. That is what I ordered, I hope the T didn't mean it was a different part though.......
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Old 01-31-2015, 11:46 AM   #6903
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Hello Kevin,

Thank you for the part info. as I greatly appreciate it. I think the T is for Team C but I could be wrong. Where did you order from. I know Evo hobbies carries a lot of Team C gear. Looks like this is a nice temporary fix.

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Hello Kevin,

Thank you for the part info. as I greatly appreciate it. I think the T is for Team C but I could be wrong. Where did you order from. I know Evo hobbies carries a lot of Team C gear. Looks like this is a nice temporary fix.

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I got the last one from a seller on ebay. If you look at my post a page or two back, the fact that this brace has the insets .5mm lower throws some of the adjustments off a bit from what they would be with the proper brace, so consider that when you set your inserts.
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Old 01-31-2015, 12:36 PM   #6905
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Hey Fellas,

Another option for a temporary fix may be the rear hangers for the Sworkz s104
They have an option rr hanger in a neutral anodized finish and rear front is red ano. Amain or RCMonkey for the rr option. Just a thought for another temporary fix.

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Old 01-31-2015, 01:15 PM   #6906
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Hey Fellas,

Another option for a temporary fix may be the rear hangers for the Sworkz s104
They have an option rr hanger in a neutral anodized finish and rear front is red ano. Amain or RCMonkey for the rr option. Just a thought for another temporary fix.

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Do you know for sure that it fits? Do you know the dimensions of the insert holes from the screw holes, and have you confirmed that the inserts are the same?
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Hey Kevin,

I believe you may have to use s104 inserts which are $9 for all of the various different settings. i believe the mounting holes are exact but I will thoroughly compare to be certain.

Are you using the rear rear hanger from Team C for the XB4 rear front as well?

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Evo hobbies site says the Team C hangers Kevin discovered are in stock
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Precisely, but to be honest I would be surprised if I actually even get a response. It would not be that far fetched to think that he may not even be aware of the issue, or any others, and that his underlings in the company are the ones trusted to call the shots on how to deal with some of these things. My hope was to make Mr. Hudy himself aware of how his company is dealing with his customers, in case he isn't already.
That's just it, he may not have been aware about it till your message, now he is & the executions start Monday/Tuesday after they get back from Berlin.
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I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet or not, but are the brass rear holders also offset? or are they correct.

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I don't think anybody has confirmed with measurements, but most of us agreed they certainly appear to be by looking at Amain's picture, but I'm certainly not giving them $62 to find out.
I have just measured my brass rear hanger. (363313)
It is off aprox 0.5mm.
Also measured the original +2 rear hanger of the XB4 2WD.
It was also off aprox 0.5mm

Really strange that no one has discovered this before.....
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Old 01-31-2015, 02:39 PM   #6911
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Hey Kevin,

I believe you may have to use s104 inserts which are $9 for all of the various different settings. i believe the mounting holes are exact but I will thoroughly compare to be certain.

Are you using the rear rear hanger from Team C for the XB4 rear front as well?

Thanks Kev
It was Toenz that discovered the Team C hanger, and according to him the rear/front brace doesn't fit because the screw holes don't line up. I have not gotten mine yet, but I only ordered the rear one. I am running mis matched inserts still. I mismatched by .5 deg last weekend, but this weekend I will be going with the full 1 deg now that Rcgod has confirmed that that is closest to true.
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That's just it, he may not have been aware about it till your message, now he is & the executions start Monday/Tuesday after they get back from Berlin.
LOL, I hope that is the case.
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The Team C brace is not a very good alternative for carpet though, as the inserts are .5mm lower, so you will not be able to use the high roll center options. Even if you put 1 deg inserts up, the pin will still be lower than the Xray brace with .5 deg inserts up. Being that the Team C brace inserts are .5mm lower, this also throws off the rear anti-squat, as the Xray inserts are .375mm and .750mm.
I hope people remember to take this into account when using them. Personally, I will try it initially with 1 deg down/in on the front, and 1 deg in for both rears, this should in theory give a touch over 3 deg toe(as the insert are reportedly .1mm wider), with a bit less anti squat angle. That's about as close as we're going to get to the setup most of us are shooting for.
From this description, this Team C hanger could be dubbed the RR+1, lol. The eccentric bushings are the tricky part. Do the Xray bushings fit does anyone know or had that been determined and I missed it?

For carpet I'd run the chassis plate to raise the hangers either way.
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From this description, this Team C hanger could be dubbed the RR+1, lol. The eccentric bushings are the tricky part. Do the Xray bushings fit does anyone know?
Toenz, who found this brace, said they measure the same and fit.
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I will measure the s104 hangers when I return from my daughters basketball games.


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