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Old 01-24-2015, 10:58 AM   #6631
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Looks like a good opportunity for the aftermarket to make some $. That's the only way this is going to get fixed. I love my xray but after this I'll never own another one.
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Old 01-24-2015, 11:30 AM   #6632
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Looks like a good opportunity for the aftermarket to make some $. That's the only way this is going to get fixed. I love my xray but after this I'll never own another one.
I was thinking the same with an aftermarket company. Even thought about talking to a buddy who owns a machine shop........

Another option may be to fill the screw holes in the gearbox with an epoxy and drill new ones, but that may be tricky as the holes would probably have to overlap the old ones a bit.

I am also thinking the same thing about never buying another one, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for a week and see if they come back with a better response. Can you give me/us the email address that you sent the questions to? Did you explain fully, or just ask about the toe block being asymmetrical?

Perhaps if we all bombard them with emails and pics they will be forced to acknowledge it, we should also do our best to get this out there publicly in any way we can........
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Old 01-24-2015, 11:38 AM   #6633
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I was thinking the same with an aftermarket company. Even thought about talking to a buddy who owns a machine shop........

I am also thinking the same thing about never buying another one, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for a week and see if they come back with a better response. Can you give me/us the email address that you sent the questions to? Did you explain fully, or just ask about the toe block being asymmetrical?

Perhaps if we all bombard them with emails and pics they will be forced to acknowledge it, we should also do our best to get this out there publicly in any way we can........
I sent the email to [email protected] and [email protected]

I gave them the link to my pics that I posted here and explained what I found.

The only way they could have missed it imo is their solid model was off from the beginning. They would have machined the part and inspected it to the model on a CMM. The only way they would have seen it off is spot checking with calipers which is a requirement at every machine shop I've worked at for the machinist. But some places will set up the machine and let an operator run it, which is usually someone that is entry level and learning.

Mistakes are made. No biggie. Happens every day, we're human. It's their denial to take responsibility for it that gets me. Xray is the last company I would expect to do that. Lesson learned.
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Old 01-24-2015, 11:49 AM   #6634
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Thanks advpball!

I appreciate the response. Excellent companies make mistakes. Thus manufactures recalls for example.
Given XRAYs excellant track record I would imagine they are somewhat stunned. Thus given them some time is a good idea as I would imagine they will fix any issue that slipped threw.
I am going to build this buggy, enjoy this buggy in having faith that the issue will be fully fixed by XRay sometime soon.
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Old 01-24-2015, 12:56 PM   #6635
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How much is the gear box off? I think your idea of using a epoxy is a good idea. Could you drill the holes out bigger,,then re thread giving the epoxy areas to attach more securely will filling these areas. After the areas filled with epoxy fully cure one could re-tap to proper size for per the screws to grab tightly and hold the gearbox firmly to the chassis plate
Doing this would allow one to re attach the gear box centerline on point.


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Old 01-24-2015, 01:01 PM   #6636
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I have a 14 car and the rear offset is on it too. So it is nothing new.
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Old 01-24-2015, 01:16 PM   #6638
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Seems like it would be an easy fix for XRAY. They should just adjust the placement of the screw holes. How bad is this offset affecting the performance. If it is not negatively affecting it still needs to be fixed as this falls in the slop category.

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Old 01-24-2015, 02:40 PM   #6639
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For those of you running a center diff, check the screws that hold the cap on the diff after a few weekend! I noticed a little weep-age of oil on my center diff today. Took it out of the car and checked the 4 screws to find they were all 3/4 turn loose . I think the heat combined with the plastic gear housing caused the screws to back out. Just a friendly racers tip.
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I have a 14 car and the rear offset is on it too. So it is nothing new.
We've pretty much determined that the '14 toe plate had the offset, but can you tell if the holes that mount it to the gearbox are shifted to the left, leaving the plate equal on both sides? Or are you saying the '14 had toe angles that were uneven when assembled?
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I just got a set of 2014 toe plates and they're offset too. Nip from amain. Can someone check the holes in a 2014 case and see if they're offset to the left? I looked at a pic online and it looks like they might be.
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We've pretty much determined that the '14 toe plate had the offset, but can you tell if the holes that mount it to the gearbox are shifted to the left, leaving the plate equal on both sides? Or are you saying the '14 had toe angles that were uneven when assembled?
The holes in the gear box are not shifted to the left.
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The holes in the gear box are not shifted to the left.
No kidding. I'd love to see a '14 with a straight edge against the brace and see if it has the same uneven toe. I'll have to check one out at the track tomorrow.
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When I ran xray touring cars 09 and the t3 we had to shim one side more to get the same toe on both sides, it was always 1/4 to 1/2 degree off. I think it's just an xray thing, they just don't like equal toe I guess.
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Well while everyone on here was complaining about the .5 mm offset.
myself and another Xray owner were racing tonight having a blast with our '15 cars. He is a sponsored driver and won the Amain "40 cars in the class"with his "inferior" quality car ahead of a the zx6,B44.3, and TLR offerings. His solution was to install 14 holders and it worked great. I just used a .5 pill on one side and my car felt great. I qualified 17 overall but had a rough C main being taken out in the first turn. Still loved the car. Setup seems great for our clay mixed track.
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