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Old 01-16-2015, 05:56 PM   #6466
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Maybe theyll come out with a locker for it ��
Well that's what I'm looking for should I go with Shumacher or Losi that uses sliper instead of trying to lock the center diff. Seems like everybody is trying to lockout center diff action. The kit comes with a slipper, is that good enough?

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Old 01-16-2015, 06:31 PM   #6467
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Yes and xb4 is built like a tank . Easy to work on although spares are a lil pricey you will love this wheeler pull the trigger .
A buddy of mine always kicks my ass un all classes. He had a schumacher n b44 1.2 and i beat him with my xb4 . Sure every dog has its day . But xb4 us that good.
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:56 PM   #6468
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I don't see why having high viscosity oil is scaring you off? If it works the best then what's the problem? Even at 500k the diff is far from being locked. Having belts on an off road car is a bigger issue. I had the k1 for half a year but the belts breaking is what turned me off from the car.
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Well that's what I'm looking for should I go with Shumacher or Losi that uses sliper instead of trying to lock the center diff. Seems like everybody is trying to lockout center diff action. The kit comes with a slipper, is that good enough?
The xray slipper works great. The center diff is a tuning option. No one says you HAVE to run it. At least it's an option on the Xray. Some cars don't even have the option of a center diff. That shouldn't keep you from buying the best car on the market imo.
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Old 01-17-2015, 02:45 AM   #6470
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The xray slipper works great. The center diff is a tuning option. No one says you HAVE to run it. At least it's an option on the Xray. Some cars don't even have the option of a center diff. That shouldn't keep you from buying the best car on the market imo.
Totally agree with this, the kit comes with the slipper as standard, and the center diff you need to buy on the side if you want it.

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Well that's what I'm looking for should I go with Shumacher or Losi that uses sliper instead of trying to lock the center diff. Seems like everybody is trying to lockout center diff action. The kit comes with a slipper, is that good enough?
The slipper in the kit is really good, if you want to start off with that in your new kit. Depending on conditions we use either slipper or diff, both have their place....

Regarding locking down the diff I would like to re-iterate what I have said before, even at a 1000K you will have diff action and a very different experience from running a slipper.
The internal diff gears are quite small in the Xray diff compared to some other makes which makes you want to go a bit higher in the Xray diff to get the same level of resistance from your fluids.
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Old 01-17-2015, 05:28 AM   #6471
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I just wanted to share a quick easy method I use for getting the air out of my shocks when I don't want to tear stuff apart. These stock o-rings don't seal that great IMO, and my shocks had some air in them already, so I thought I'd film this in case anybody else wants to give it a try...Let me just figure out the youtube link........
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Old 01-17-2015, 05:33 AM   #6472
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Figured it out, video above.
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Did anyone on here receive a center diff from stormer ?
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I just wanted to share a quick easy method I use for getting the air out of my shocks when I don't want to tear stuff apart. These stock o-rings don't seal that great IMO, and my shocks had some air in them already, so I thought I'd film this in case anybody else wants to give it a try...Let me just figure out the youtube link........
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The emulsion shocks use air to work, so you will have some in them. They arenot the same as those with bladders.
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The emulsion shocks use air to work, so you will have some in them. They arenot the same as those with bladders.
I understand that, but it's very difficult to gauge that and get them equal, and not everybody builds them with air, for example here are 3 videos, all of them basically show them being built in a way that would leave no air, I think that was one of the points of adding the bleeder screws.
Here is Dustin Evans building emulsion before the bleeder capshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq9BCf6EjEQ

And here is Dustin building emulsion with the bleeder caps
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What I am doing gives essentially the same result as what he is doing with the bleeder caps.
And another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCUS7namepU

Both the videos with bleeder caps have the shafts being compressed, forcing the air then the rest of the oil out, then the screw put in. This leaves no air in the shock, if you want air you would draw the shaft out before putting the screw back, or you wouldn't have filled the shock fully initially. No air gives a more consistent zero rebound I think.
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I understand that, but it's very difficult to gauge that and get them equal, and not everybody builds them with air, for example here are 3 videos, all of them basically show them being built in a way that would leave no air, I think that was one of the points of adding the bleeder screws.
Here is Dustin Evans building emulsion before the bleeder capshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq9BCf6EjEQ

And here is Dustin building emulsion with the bleeder caps
+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

What I am doing gives essentially the same result as what he is doing with the bleeder caps.
And another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCUS7namepU

Both the videos with bleeder caps have the shafts being compressed, forcing the air then the rest of the oil out, then the screw put in. This leaves no air in the shock, if you want air you would draw the shaft out before putting the screw back, or you wouldn't have filled the shock fully initially. No air gives a more consistent zero rebound I think.
You can set that for no air and then after you run you will see they have bubbles back in them. The emulsions really weren't designed for rebound purposes so I would not beat your head on trying to get them to match. The trick with emulsion is using the same amounts of oil which leaves the same air pocket.
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You can set that for no air and then after you run you will see they have bubbles back in them. The emulsions really weren't designed for rebound purposes so I would not beat your head on trying to get them to match. The trick with emulsion is using the same amounts of oil which leaves the same air pocket.
I know, and it's not something I obsess about, just something I do to get them back to square one. When you run them, some air gets in(a lot with these shocks), but then the shock becomes pressurized at full compression, and it starts to force some oil out, you run it again and more air gets in, pressure builds and more oil gets out, but it never happens evenly. If you bleed the air out after every run it doesn't happen nearly as fast but it still does.
To each his own I guess, but I like to keep my shocks relatively even and consistent, and I prefer the more predictable feel of little to no air. I just wanted to share what I do that makes things easier for me, because I know there are a lot of people that choose to run them like this.
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Is there a conversion chart for the Hudy csi oils to associated shock oil?
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Is there a conversion chart for the Hudy csi oils to associated shock oil?
http://www.twf8.ws/php/tip/shock.html
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Quick question guys, I have the rear suspension holder pills set both RR and FR at the lowest and most inner position. With the pills front and rear set the same, has anybody actually measured the actual toe in? One of the setup sheets for Clay that im starting with says to set the rear toe to 3 degrees; it also has the pills in the inner/lowest position. But looking at the rear tires/wheels; doesn't look like much toe at all. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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